Neuralink’s human trials volunteers ‘should have serious concerns,’ say medical experts::A medical ethics committee responded to Elon Musk’s brain-interface startup issuing an open call for patients yesterday.
Having to pay a monthly payment to access a childhood memory would suck
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I’m going to go ahead and not have something with the build quality of a Tesla attached to my brain, thanks.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a43625242/tesla-is-the-most-recalled-car-brand/
You could then just run over kids in strollers and blame the Tesla chip in your head.
Finally! A way to fake senility without needing to wait so long
I just use copious amount of Jameson’s for that purpose.
Beep, beep, motherfuckers.
I’m not dumb enough to be interested in a first generation brain implant, but surely someone is.
That being said the car thing is a bunch of bullshit. Separate OTA software patches from physical drive-the-car-to-a-dealership recalls and get back to me on the real “recall” count.
I’m not really interested in driving a full electric car (hybrids seem to be the sweet spot until we find better batteries) but people cling to arbitrary metrics for all kinds of criticism in a red vs blue or console war fashion to proclaim why their chosen product is better. It’s so asinine. All of the electronic systems in modern cars have issues because all software has issues. The ones that are the worst are the ones with no OTA patching, of which there are many.
Maybe Musk has a malfunctioning Neuralink chip in his brain. Would explain a lot.
Darn, a Musk article got through my anti Twitter, anti Musk Sync for Lemmy filter. Time to ass Neuralink to it.
Ifs been glorious weeks since I saw Musk on Lemmy.
idk man his stupid face always makes me happy
gotta tighten up those filters homie. musk talk is brain-rotting
Do you really think so, medical expert? lol
Lol they aren’t the type have ‘concerns’ . They would get in the bus to Mars TOMORROW.
I wanna posit an extension to Dunning Kruger - something that describes the phenomena whereby rational, moderately educated individuals don’t really understand the full potential of Maximum Stupid
“If you’re interested in an additional sixty dollars, flag down a test associate and let 'em know. You could walk out of here with a hundred and twenty weighing down your bindle if you let us take you apart, put some science stuff in you, then put you back together good as new.“
Oh shit, you don’t say?
Fucking lol. LOL.
I can’t stress this enough: LOL
Make people desperate enough and then offer them shady stuff like this.
They’ll do it.
Neuralink will have all participants sign a waiver stating they know about the risks of death, etc etc. People will just sign and ignore all that because Elon!
Never mind that he’s an incompetent scammer.
Maybe we should force the participants to go on an exploration trip to the Titanic before they can join…
Waivers can’t totally exonerate someone from all harm caused
If Mr. X is so confident in Neuralink he should be first in line.
This is a publicity stunt to get more funding. They are going to get some volunteers, but they won’t ever get the implants. Neuralink will just keep delaying the procedure by a year and then cancel it once the public stops paying attention.
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I don’t see Neuralink taking the legal risk, regardless of what the FDA says. The approval is part of the publicity stunt IMO.
I don’t think they’d care about the legal risk from people who’d sign up. However it’d be pretty bad publicity having them all die
Hey now, that’s not fair. Some of them might just end up paralyzed or brain dead.
I think you are hating simply because musk, they have FDA approval. People are going to get this implant in their brain, and if I remember I’ll come back here and send you a message that you were wrong when it happens.
I hope you sign up
I’m not disabled, so I can’t even if I wanted to. I don’t want to either, I’m not stupid
FDA approval ain’t evidence that something is safe. See the recent approvals for anti-Alzheimers meds that have a terrible side-effect to benefit ratio.
So you’re worried the implant will affect your memory. Got it.
Did you see the article about what they did to those monkeys?
Any human that allows this half-baked shit near them in it’s current state should be terrified.
They only said people would get the implants, not that they would survive. If they have FDA approval, I’m afraid the previous poster may be correct.
No, what did they do to them?
Warning: animal suffering.
that’s just… that gave me nausea
I’ll let someone else link it, or I’m sure you can easily find it if you search Google News. Just a warning though, is awful to read.
I’m with the other guy, I’m not reading that again, but I remember it was on the verge if that helps.
Musk is a transhumanist who is trying to figure out how to transfer his consciousness into one of his brood, or into a machine.
I imagine advertisements being streamed into the user’s dreams, turning them into remote controlled zombies and causing mental breakdowns.
“Your subscription is about to expire. Serotonin and dopamine will be blocked until you renew it. Please, select automatic renewal to avoid unwanted depression or suicide. Thanks for choosing our services. Fuck you.”
Sounds like a black mirror episode - if it weren’t actually possible reality…
Can’t wait to need an ad blocker in my brain.
Should I go with NeuroFirefox or NeuroPihole?
Just rip the cables off your brain, go back to monke.
Neurofox and neuroblock origin
That’s a good Futurama episode! Oh wait
Or maybe they become little Elon copies
Imagine having a button you could use to make people shit their pants on demand.
Anyone doing anything with Elon Musk should have serious concerns.
Are you sure? Reality check time. If Tesla gave you a job offer that’s in your field and the wage is at least 20k what you are making or over the industry avg. would you put aside your morals and take the offer?
Absolutely not. I wouldn’t work for the Heritage Foundation for any price either. Maybe money can control you, but it doesn’t control me. I’d rather be poor than hate myself.
I could be richer by fucking my clients but I really like sleeping
$20k isn’t going to make you rich anyway
If Tesla offered me $200k over maybe I’d think about it
I mean we’re talking about Tesla opening a marketing department and me running it from scratch, you’d have to at least triple the industry average as I would likely be working 16 hour days.
No. I routinely turn down offers of 80% increase to go work for companies like Palantir, Raytheon, etc… Fuck that noise.
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Have you never heard of work/life balance?
Lmao, I’m a public servant and a developer. I make that choice every year.
Absolutely not.
Tesla under pays compared to other car companies.
Where did you get the idea Tesla pays above market rates for any role? They’re notorious for hiring fresh college grads and just burning them out. And that’s on the software side, the people building the actual cars have it even worse.
I said if. Would you take the offer
I’d choose being paid less over working for a bipolar narcissist who fires people at the drop of a hat. But again, it’s not a choice I’d have to make as I pointed out above.
If I gave you a million dollars would you take it?
Me personally my morals would prevent me from taking the offer no matter the price.
You didn’t read my question because that answer makes no sense.
No, don’t you see, in an impossible hypothetical situation, they assume you’d do something against your stated values. You’ve been pwned by a person of logic and intellect, I’m afraid. I’m sorry, but you agree with them now.
Maybe things have changed but for a while Elons companies paid very well for engineering/technical staff, as in solid six figures fresh out of school. Of course the only reason they paid that much was that they expected 80+ hour weeks
This is correct, Tesla is known for underpaying
No.
It’s not about morals, it’s about work life balance and not having the risk of being illegally fired for no reason.
No.
AH HA HA HA HA
20K above average? Not a chance in hell. For all the reports of how shitty the work environment is at ALL of his companies, coupled with the constant need to push far past whats ethical, or in some cases even legal… no.
Fuck no.
Not a chance in hell.
Now, throw me 500% of the average and maybe we’ll talk. But You’d only get a year from me. Two tops. Just enough to pay off my bills. Then I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.
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Oh, sweet soul. You just revealed to the world that you yourself lack any kind of morals, maybe you should work for Musk.
Lol i just find it interesting. I asked the same question in a meta thread and over there, majority said they would take the offer!
Hey! Don’t talk to them like that! It might be that they don’t have any self respect or are just a trash human being
Software engineer here. I’ve literally had to make that choice. The answer was no. He treats his workers like shit, underpays a ton compared to the industry standard, and constantly engages in union busting
Even without the moral issues I wouldn’t work for him.
Sometimes you gotta weigh job security and a tolerable work environment into the mix. Working for Musk doesn’t seem low-stress.
Tolerable work environment is at the top of my list. If I were to even consider working at an intolerable business, I would need to be paid enough to retire after a year. We have made it so that work is life, and also now retirement is very uncertain for most young people. There’s no way I’m gonna take an intolerable job that will go on indefinitely.
Lol 20k. tell me you’re a musk cuck without… you know the rest.
Tesla doesn’t pay more than other places, so I feel like this person just doesn’t make much money and $20k is a huge differential to their hourly wage. Otherwise why not choose another arbitrary number like $50k?
At the scales of wages for engineers, project managers, etc, powering these companies, somebody in those positions would be be using a percentage.
20k is 5-15% wage over average wages for most of those job roles and that’s easy to find competing offers for and not sell yourself out to overwork yourself if you qualified anyways.
Even if you did take the money, you just described a scenario in which you do have serious concerns. Ones you’ve ignored.
I won’t even consider investing until “The Man Himself” gets one.
But they were all of them deceived, for another chip was made. In the land of Texas, in the labs of Neuralink, the Dark Lord Elon forged in secret, a master chip, to control all others.
One Chip to rule them all,
One Chip to find them,
One Chip to network them all,
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where a line break should take place.Thanks for the tip. The line break works, but the stanza spacing doesn’t seem to be taking. I’m on Jerboa so that may be influencing the formatting.
I mean, it’s just syntax for a paragraph break that’s been in Markdown since day one, of course Jerboa supports it.
Paragraph spacing varies in different clients because it’s the devs’ stylistic choice. Double line height for Jerboa and Infinity, about 1.5 for web and Thunder. Exact 2.0 makes it look like the syntax is rendered without processing but it most likely isn’t.
I get it, he won’t be getting an ad-sponsored or cheaply made version. The concern is safety, and it will be for a while.
Maybe Elon has a malfunctioning chip in his brain already, which would explain a lot. Anyone seen him getting seizures?
