• nexusband@lemmy.world
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    How about you just fuck off with your baseless accusations. Nobody tells me what to think, especially not right-wing armchair farts who don’t have a clue about tooting and blowing. Both extremist views are absolute junk and have no place in a civilized world and that’s exactly why Greta (and the same, it’s not just her) gets on my nerves so much.

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      1 year ago

      Nice. ‘Both sides are the same’ im just one square short of mingo on my ‘Im totally not a republican, But…’ card!

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        1 year ago

        Both extremes are the same.

        You slicing the world into exactly two categories (not three or five or seventy trillion but TWO) is divisive and counterproductive.

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      1 year ago

      I don’t think you can properly translate “von tuten und blasen keine Ahnung haben” into English. But I appreciate it anyway.

      Furthermore, do you care to explain what is particularly extremist about Thunberg’s views?

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        1 year ago

        She cares about the environment man! And and she like, stood in front of an oil port!! I can’t think of anything more extreme leftist terrorist than that

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        Wahrscheinlich nicht - ist mir aber ehrlich gesagt auch Egal, weil es am Ende eh nix bringt. Sobald man bei dem Thema ne andere Meinung hat, ist man eh unten durch. Aber, weil ich ja eig. verständigungswillig bin…hier die Erklärung:

        Yes, i care: I’ve said it in another post, the fact that she (and pretty much everyone else that applauded her) want’s to basically stop living life, without proposing or advocating how to do it better or rather using her Plattform to advocate real change without completely demolishing “life” irks me. To quote the other post:

        Because I do not agree with the methods and also the basic goal. Basically, just telling everyone to stop living isn’t going to do shit in terms of change. You have to give people a perspective to rally behind the cause - I support the cause, but neither the goal of going cold turkey on fossils from tomorrow morning, nor do I support the way they go about that.

        The issue is: The extremist positions are doing more harm than any good, it’s one of the reasons the AfD got so big in the last few months and neither the Greens nor any other party seem to understand that all they are doing is playing in to the hands of those right wing extremist positions. It infuriates me beyond comparison and makes me actually mad.

        And “the other side” just get’s foam around their mouth (wahrscheinlich noch was, was man anders übersetzen müsste, ich bin aber gerade zu verärgert um das ordentlich zu tun - sorry) and put’s you in to the same corner. Which is not only absolutely stupid, it also damages Democracy, Free Speech and also our society - probably on the same level as Climate Change itself, because in the end, does it matter if we bash our heads in because of climate change (no water, no food) or because we disagree? Both things can be avoided.

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          The popularity of the AFD is not the fault of the people actually trying to make things a tiny bit better. It’s thanks to right wing media and parties (CxU) continuously slandering them after complete failure to improve things even the tiniest bit during their time in power.

          Even the most mild and harmless change to somewhat reduce the apocalyptic global warming we’re creating is fought tooth and nail by the right wing.

          Your argument makes as much sense as the people saying gay people are making things worse by forcing their gayness down everyone’s throat. No, right wing people don’t want to do anything about climate change and want LGBT people not to exist.

          You can’t appease those dicks into rationality.

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        To know as much about something as the man in the moon

        As to her extremist and disagreeable views, now, I haven’t collaborated this properly but have it on very good authority that she prefers vanilla over chocolate pudding. What a monster.

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        From what I gather, blocking an oil port is extremist and doesn’t actually do anything but make life more difficult for the general population.

        From that perspective I can agree with him. Blockading an oil port is an extreme approach to combating climate change. More sensible approaches would be figuring out how to lobby governments to tax fossil fuels and use that money to support renewable resources.

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          How did what she did make life more difficult for anyone except corporations? No one would have noticed anything, mate.

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            Hmm, in this instance probably. I am worried she’ll gather the wrong type of attention and turn more people off than on to climate issues.

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                I am not sure about that. There plenty of people who use her as an example to further their propaganda against progressive movements.

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                    And people didn’t think Trump had a shot back in 2016.

                    I live in a town that’s split down the middle politically and I still see people flying Trump flags even after all the bs he has done. We even had a council member denounce pride month back in June at a council meeting. They think they are fighting the good fight.

                    Anyway, my point is that there are people who will see what Greta is doing, even if it benefits them, and still fight it because they think their side has their back.

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        Oh, she’s extremist compared to the political center. Just as people in favor of women’s suffrage were in the early 20th century.

        Doesn’t make her wrong though. It’s just damning for the majority.