Maybe this is unpopular but I’m getting tired of opening lemmy and having to scroll past the same post that I have viewed already, half of the posts on the front page are 2 or 3 days old.
my go to method on reddit
iswas sorting by subscribed and top day. this way if I’ve seen everything already I know I’ve probably spent too much time scrolling and should check out individual communities if I’m trying to kill more time.What I do is that I usually have my “frontpage” on subscribed-new. This way there is often new content that I find interesting. If I still want more, I check on “local” or “all” also on new and then I can enjoy standing under the waterfall of content. It’s fun going about it this way.
You might wanna read up on the algorithm Lemmy uses. Specifically this part:
- Active uses the post votes, and latest comment time (limited to two days).
- Hot uses the post votes, and the post published time.
If you’re sorting by Active, that means those posts you’re seeing are pretty, well, active even if they’re a couple days old.
Hot and active feeds are currently broken for a lot of big instances. It should be fixed in the next Lemmy server version. For now use New or New Comments. Growing pains of being such new software and such a huge, sudden adoption.
I really don’t mind the growing pains … enjoy what we have now … there might come a time in ten years when we’ll look back on today as the best of this new social media.
I don’t mind it either, was just seeing people ask this question everywhere so trying to inform people
Not a problem my friend … I’m just happy to have a good conversation with others … I feel like a kid in a candy store and all the people are nice
Same! So far a much happier, more positive community than I saw on reddit.
Apparently in the algorithm time is a multiplier that increases the “gravity” but when the first post everyone saw here a few days ago has 1000 upvotes and everything else has 20-30~ even with the multiplier it stays on top. Those posts were an exception to the normal traffic that beat the algorithm. Maybe if the algorithm was based off of like “if x% above the average post karma for that instance then it gets a bigger time multiplier to increase its gravity over time”
But I think those posts getting upvoted hard-core beat the algorithm and it’s going to take forever for them to fall.
It seems like a lot of people complain about not seeing content but then don’t contribute any content themselves. Like, posts are old because there’s little new content, so maybe everyone can help contribute to communities. Content doesn’t miraculously appear.
There’s plenty of new content if you sort by new. This isn’t a content issue; it’s a bug. But go off I guess.
Like, posts are old because there’s little new content
Yeah, but you could be underestimating the effect of the Active sorting bumping old posts, which leads to a few posts threads rising over and over. Perhaps there’s more eagerness to make new threads than you can see, because most of those new threads don’t spark the fire of discussion and get quickly buried.
Active sorting is more like 4chan, Hot sorting is like Reddit or HN.
I was thinking the same thing. I’ve been using the filters to go to New and Hot and other things but when someone comes to the front page they shouldn’t keep seeing the same posts for many hours or even days. I remember years ago on Reddit they altered the algorithm so that newer posts would show up more frequently on the front page and it was a massive improvement.
I am a bit split. I too find it a bit annoying to scroll past 80% of the posts. On the other hand, sometimes I see that there are new comments (which lemmy shows) under a post about an interesting topic.
I think the UI, instead of just bringing the posts up without explanation, should show you how many new comments the post received. It would be great for keeping tabs on a discussion, too.
The Reddit Enhancement Suite stores a cookie that remembers the number of comments when you visited a post. It’s a killer feature.
A more modern UI example:
I would not have understood the meaning of the +4 had i not seen the old UI first.
What you want is sorting by new, in “subscribed” or even “all”
No I don’t as I don’t want to see all content I just want to see the good stuff, which is why I feel like the posts should age out after 24 hours so that when I get on lemmy the next day I have new quality content to view.
You could sort by “top day”, at least then you won’t see older posts.
Where is that at? Im blind lol but this sounds like what I want.
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Jerboa:
holy shit thank you man! I’m so blind, I dont know why I never clicked that button.
New + subscribes works fine yes. But won’t you miss out new comments in popular posts that are a bit older with that option? If you are subscribed to lots of communities, the first few pages already are starting to get filled with new posts in a few hours. It is probably hard to do this well for everyone.
I used to hide on upvote / downvote, would be cool if Lemmy adds this as an option too
I really miss the ctrl-enter to submit.
That is a feature available in your settings.
Awesome! Where in settings is it? I can only see “hide on read”
The checkbox is checked by default so uncheck “show read posts”
Ah, I thought you meant a setting to hide a post after a upvote or downvote. This setting is for hiding read posts, so not quite what I meant. Thanks anyway!
Oh right but should have added that upvoting or downvoting a post counts as reading it. I wish there was a “mark as read” button but this should still do what you want I think
Just tried it and you’re right! Thanks!
I turned off the show read in the account settings. I don’t see the articles I’m reading.
This is the way.
My issue with it is it is VERY literal. So like you can’t even see the posts in your post history because you’ve read them. So needs some work still lol.
Yep. On plebbit you were able to actively hide certain posts. I would like posts to remain available on communities I car about.
Not ideal for me. I like to keep tabs on the conversation on post. I will often see a post that is making its way up the page with a few comments and will check back in as I am browsing when it has hundreds.
My reddit goto was to mark as read as I scroll and then Boost had a “Clear all read” button I could press. It would only clear until I refreshed my feed then they would show up again until I hit the button again. It felt like a good balance.
Sounds like good use for bookmarking/saving posts.
I just realized I never did this on reddit because I would check the post, reply to some comments and move on and never go back lol! I don’t think I want to do that here.
I like that the webui highlights new comments. It’s nice to get back to a good thread and see how it develops.
That could work somewhat if it was an option on the actual feed next to subscribed/local/all and sort type.
“Active” is very inactive but “Hot” seems okay. It’s a bit slow, too, but not entirely broken.
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Yeah, the “active” sort also seems broken. I change to top with a day time period or hot. Works much better.
Active works a lot like old forum posts. New comments makes a post more active. Hot is similar to Reddit, though posts do tend to stick at the top for longer than they should.
Edit: Turns out Hot is bugged and stops updating, requiring server restarts. Github issue tracking it.
this explains a lot. on Hot and on Active I see posts with 0 interaction (basically sorting by new). on Top I just see old posts :(
There’s a second bug that causes new posts to show up on the top of the feed. That might be what you are seeing. I only see posts with 0 interaction when that happens. It’s annoying because right as you are about to click on a post, it’ll give shoved down the page as new content flows in.
Luckily, that is being fixed. I don’t know when the next release is going to happen, but I saw the code fixing it got merged in recently.
Yeah solution has been to sort by daily top. Not ideal but gets the job done. Really unfortunate timing to have a bug like that with the hot sorting.
daily top means you get the same thing for like 24 hours though
Better than getting the same thing for 2+ days.
touche
Each client would have to implement it on it own. But marking posts as viewed when scrolled past and hiding them from showing up in the feed again would be a great optional feature
I usually sort by new on my subscribed communities if I see that happens, because normally there are some new posts when I came back to check Lemmy. It seems that if I let it sort by Active or Popular, there are a lot of posts that I’ve already seen that they still have activity.
