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    Restaurant Brands International owns Burger King, Tim Hortons, Popeye’s Chicken, and Firehouse Subs

    Fuck RBI, they are lying war profiteers putting tax revenue in the hand of the Kremlin which it uses to fund it’s war of genocide in Ukraine. Do not eat in any of their restaurants

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      Are you also telling us how much they own of those Burger King franchises in Russia they are supposed to shut down?

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        You don’t own franchise partners by definition. They are individually owned restaurants that pay you a fee to use your brand (name, menu, marketing, etc.).

        „Shutting down“ here means: Don’t renew these franchise contracts. The restaurants will continue to exist, but they will have to rebrand and be less lucrative.

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          but they will have to rebrand and be less lucrative.

          And what do you do if those Russian franchise owners refuse to rebrand and continue using the BK name, supplies and signage?

          Do you stop providing logistical support? Do you cut them off the BK supply chain (shut that down too) and not provide any new menu items / marketing materials?

          Has BK done that?

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            Yes, obviously you should cut supply lines, duh. Why would you supply products to someone who isn’t paying for them.

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              So what is burger king doing wrong here?"

              Edit: At least 10 people didn’t read the fucking article, BK did cut the supply line. This place is just like Reddit, all hurr durr without reading the article.

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                They are telling you, literally. They should revoke the branding licence, cut every supply lines, and sue them if they continue using the brand (as they would surely do if I just started to have a Burger King without a licence). They don’t do these things. Which is wrong. And that’s what they are doing wrong.

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                  This is how I know you didn’t read the article.

                  BK did cut the supply chain logistics. It’s mentioned in the article.

                  Sue the franchisees? Where? In Russia? In the middle of an economic war with the west? Even if the suit proceeded for some reason, who do you expect the court to rule in favor of?

                  BK did everything to severe ties. The only thing that remains is to sell their share of the franchise. If they sell now (even if they find a buyer), they likely won’t be paid in anything other than rubles which is useless.

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                  What imaginary supply line are you talking about? Do you think that any food there is not supplied locally? That they import paper wrappings with a logo from the US? Actually the ones probably importing their stuff are sitting in the US, even if it’s just plastic trash from China.

                  It’s a name. And if they got told not to use it anymore or they just don’t pay anything anymore… what is supposed to happen? Someone goes to Russia and sues them there?

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                Nothing, because you just hallucinate supply lines. The franchise pays for the fucking name and that’s it. And if they are not allowed to do so anymore, who’s going to Russia and sue the owning oligarchs there?

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      War profiteer is an interesting way to look at it. If a company doesn’t cut ties with warmonger countries, they are war profiteers ?

      They should also get away from US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and most of the “developed” countries that are historically exploiting poor countries ?

      They sell fucking burguers, if they manage to not put too much garbage in the food to save money, they are doing enough.

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      Especially with firehouse subs having such a purpose washed image/mission, you think they’d be smarter.

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    Don’t like it, don’t go there. Tell them why.

    Personally I’m boycotting them. Not because of any moral justification, but because they sell overpriced disappointing mulch.

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      Literally worst fast food joint and the only people I’ve met who claim otherwise have objectively bad taste.

      Like no joke, objectively, “I love a butter and cheese sandwich on wonderbread”, British, wouldn’t know flavor if it ripped their tongue out.

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        I have to make my own burgers now. Most places serve fast food swill, and the only nice place has switched to brioche buns.

        Brioche buns are not load bearing buns! They fall apart at the slightest contact with moisture. I will die on this hill forever.

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            As opposed to dying in a valley forever, totally painless.

            I’m curious about dying on a hill temporarily though.

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          Surely most untoasted buns will fall apart if dealing with anything outside of a basic burger?

          If you use a small, cheap bun, you can’t expect toppings to not break it apart.

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        You rank BK as worse than McDonald’s? I only ask cause I’ve worked at both, and I would put McDonald’s just the tiniest bit lower than BK. Wendy’s is barely better than both BK and McDonald’s.

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            Back when i used to have fast food, I liked BK over McD because i preferred their fries and i liked their jalapeño poppers.

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                McD fries are too soft and when they get cold they are absolute garbage. They almost seem soggy, without getting wet. BK have a crunch to them. At least this is the case in the UK.

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                Not going to say they’re good, but it is wild as fuck how much of a difference franchises can make. There are several BKs in my city, but a select few are owned by a different franchise than the majority of the others. Their food is WAY better, consistently, than the others, and it’s usually a lot fresher tasting.

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        I sent my sister a bottle of fry sauce that she’s been trying to find for years (she never thought to check Amazon lol), this is what she sends me back. Told her she was supposed to use it to enhance good food, not make terrible food tolerable. not Mmmm

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    David Shear, RBI’s president, said in March 2022 that Burger King’s main operator in Russia had “refused” to shut the outlets following the first attacks on Ukraine.

    Steven Tian, part of a team of researchers at Yale University who track what companies have done in response to the Ukraine war, argued using franchise agreements as an “excuse” was a “convenient smokescreen”.

    Mark Dixon, founder of the Moral Rating Agency, which campaigns against firms doing business in Russia, called for RBI to disclose what specific actions it had taken in its attempts to leave.

    David Bond, partner at law firm Fieldfisher, said RBI’s 15% stake meant it could not simply “dictate terms” to its fellow shareholders to require them to close Burger King branches.

    He also suggested companies that franchise out their brands would be reluctant to simply walk away from deals as it could lead to “dire consequences”, including being sued for breach of contract, as well as reputational damage.

    But he said consequences aside, there was nothing stopping RBI from terminating the franchise arrangement if it was adamant it wanted to do so, though added it might not result in the Burger King brand ceasing to exist in Russia.


    The original article contains 671 words, the summary contains 200 words. Saved 70%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Can Burger King pull out of the US first? Absolutely the worst fast food chain ever. The only reason anybody goes to BK is if McDonald’s is on fire.

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          if your older there was a day when mcdonalds was extremely bad. The whole heat lamp thing you might see in movies came out of the way mcdonalds was in the 80’s. At that time BK was riding high. They mostly cooked to order (that sorta fell apart at rushes) so your burger was always fresh from the broiler conveyor. One thing about places when they are popular is the food is fresher because they go through it fast. At some point that all fell apart and they started having their patties sit in these plastic warming pans with some sort of oil to keep them moist. I have noticed that this seemed to happen mostly in city burger kings while ones in the boonies still seemed to do alright.

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      At least for vegetarian options they are way ahead of McDonalds

      Can’t speak for the rest of the menu though