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How is reddit post protest, did it really win over protesters? Did the ones who left make a dent? Or like all things before, did it ultimately do nothing?
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Reddit ex-pat. I don’t think they crushed it. A lot of people definitely left.
The data is not back yet, but some of the power users left. It’s said only 1% of users submit posts, and if they leave the rest of the community stagnates. Many mods left, which means spam and reposts and low quality content will fill the site. It’s going downhill, how fast is up for debate.
True. I don’t think it’s going to plummet tomorrow but I think you’ll see steady downturn all starting around July 1.
They had better IPO ASAP. Luckily for them, investors are morons.
I guess if all the protesters leave and move to a new platform, they win?
The impact is already noticeable, especially on subs where the mods remain in conflict with the admins. Regardless of how that pans out, I’m thankful to have discovered Lemmy along the way.
If you compare r/all to what it was pre-protest it is fairly obvious that there’s a huge difference. Besides the subs that are outright still protesting, there’s a lot less comments on front-page posts. It’s pretty easy now to get to posts with essentially 0 comments on the front page (that aren’t locked) compared to before.
Reddit went from the 5th most visited website in the world to the 20th. That’s not nothing.
Lemme put on my tin foil hat for a second and say that this degrading of reddit was just in time for it to go public. It could only go up from here.
I can’t predict the future, but I think this whole federating thing is good. The internet and its traffic was too localized. The people don’t want to keep being sold.
Now if we could somehow get everyone that uses a site like this to actually PAY - say - $1 a YEAR, the internet would be better for it.
Pay who? Serious question.
Edi: Or where?
Pay your instance to help offset hosting fees.
I’m hoping this is the direction we go, and I think it will be, though if the Fediverse ever overtook private social media, I’m pretty certain the tech companies would lobby to regulate social media, try to regulate who’s allowed to host web servers, or lobby ISP’s to raise bandwidth costs for people who do host web servers.
I find myself not too creative with imagining what are they(corporations) gonna make money off. I like not know what Meta is planning with Threads or what’s next with tech companies. I just have the distrust and reminder to not underestimate corporate greed.
Your comments and other lemming comments tells me how corporate greed is gonna fuck us next.
Interesting. Maybe it’s my lack of imagination, but I don’t see how tech companies stamp us out by lobbying, or how web hosting and cloud services can be restricted based on use case. Seems like the genie is out of the bottle on this thing.
Eh, I kinda hope that happens to be honest. I’ve finally got to the point where I just deeply refuse to use any of the large corporation stuff, and if they somehow kill community run social networks, then I’ll finally be free of my addiction that I don’t have the willpower to deal with as long as there’s an ok-enough tempting alternative . Which I know is selfish, but I’d probably help me a lot :D
Back in the '90s, ISPs would provide subscribers with Email (POP3/SMTP) access, NNTP access and even basic web hosting of static pages. They also used to provide FTP mirrors of most large software repositories. This saved them wholesale bandwidth and also a faster connection for their users. Maybe modern independent ISPs can reimplement this Service for their subscribers. For instance (pun not intended) Telstra and iiNet (in Australia) could offer access to a Lemmy instance, or a consortium of independent ISPs could sponsor a regional Lemmy instance.
This is a really interesting point, because at least in the UK, we’re seeing a rise in regional ISPs again as companies rush to beat BT/Openreach to offering 1gbps fibre internet in areas they’re not yet prioritising.
I could completely see bundling a local-focussed set of fediverse services with the subscription to be a no brainer that people might actually get some decent value out of. Also would have the benefit of the services having a steady stream of income from the subscription fees.
That’s a really good idea. ISP email is still a thing in my country.
I’ll selflessly offer myself up as recipient.
Didn’t they set server donation goals at one stage and the community of reddit were more than happy to contribute money?
There was this bar for years that said how much more donations they needed per month.
Completely anecdotal, but when I had a look at r/all, it looked way less busy and lower quality, full of subs I’d never heard of, and generally…not that great.
There are so many potentially NSFW posts showing up in the main feed because of all the odd subs it is probably a good idea to report them so there are no issues with the advertisers.
A lot more Ai generated posts too. It’s to the point to where you see the same phrasings, same idioms and same jokes word for word from different accounts. Or they’re just typical redditors and its hard to tell anymore.
Reddit is too big to die quickly (unless they suffer a catastrophic failure), but it’s easy to see that it was an inflection point for them, that it’s downhill from here. Remember: at one point, it looked like Yahoo Directory and Internet Explorer would be around forever too.
Same for myspace. When was the last time that was relevant?
Hahaha, it’s an interesting point. Myspace does still exist. But it’s a shell of it’s former self. We can only hope that someday reddit will be too.
They all died due to competitive market pressure. Reddit and Twitter are dying due to managerial incompetence. I believe that Threads will be stillborn due to managerial incompetence, but we are yet to see.
apparently people are considering a return to myspace. i’ve seen the posts
In these days of Zuckerberg and Musk, Tom would be a huge win.
For that very same reason Tom said fuck all this, SOLD the whole thing and now lives his life doing whatever the f he wants. No way our boy Tom is about to come back with the whiteboard lmao he’s got it good
Tom was my first Internet friend. I’m glad he’s doing well
I don’t blame them.
Join Myspace: Hi, I’m Tom! I’m your friend!
Join Twitter: TUCKER CARLSON SAYS THE LIBERAL UFOS ARE GOING TO STEAL DONALD TRUMP’S HAIR!!!
I have to be honest, the fact we have an active alternative(s) to reddit at last makes this a complete success for me. I’ve lowkey despised reddit for years. Particularly from 2016 on when bots kind of overran the website and the front page was just filled with toxic garbage that never really went away to this day. I actually did use the revanced patch to get my RIF app working again (though I can’t get my ad-less premium back unfortunately), but I’ve been on here far more than there. I think im just having more fun on Lemmy than I have been on reddit in years. The only reasons I hop back are for sports team specific communities (and really the game threads because I like interacting with other people watching when im watching alone). On the instance i’m on currently there are generated game threads but it hasn’t got the users to make them particularly active as of yet. If that ever happens i’ll happily cut off reddit for good
I’m really liking the lack of bots as well. Im hoping the sports stuff takes off here but I guess that just takes time. I’ll check out that instance though. When football and hockey start up again I’d love to have gameday threads back
I bet an instance geared specifically towards sports would be a relatively popular one
So, I’m new here, but I’m still struggling to see the advantage of smaller and more focused instances. I mean, Lemmy.World was pretty sluggish in the first days of the Great Migration, but it got better fairly quickly.
I can imagine smaller instances can do a better job of screening new sign-ups, and they tend to be a little faster than (some) larger instances. Is that it? I’ve also noticed that they tend to have more lag on content updates on the communities I am most interested in, and the front page seems a bit more static.
I created an account on a smaller instance when perfomance here on .world were at its worst, but now I find myself using this account more and more. Maybe more instances is good for Lemmy, but I’m not yet sure if ti’s good for me.
So, I’m new here, but I’m still struggling to see the advantage of smaller and more focused instances.
One benefit of focused instances is that we can sort of insulate ourselves from de-federation conflicts amongst the larger, user-focused instances. I’m not sure if you we around for the beehaw.org defederation from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works but those were 3/4 of the biggest instances and those users can no longer interact. Users from lemmy.world were basically blocked from all new content on the communities they were subscribed to on beehaw.org and vice versa.
I host a sports-focused instance fanaticus.social where all we talk about is sports. It’s a non-controversial topic (most of the time) and because we’re focused on that one topic, users from all the instances like beehaw, lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, can still interact with and create content for sports without worrying about losing access to the communities they’re a part of. That’s the major advantage as far as I see it.
I don’t care about user registration counts because most of our content comes from users on general instances. In the future we will probably disable registration altogether. I have only left it open for now to reduce the friction for new fediverse users if they happen to find our instance first and want to make fanaticus their home instance.
My home instance, Lemmy.sdf.org, is full of geeky/retro communities that tickle my fancy. I like setting my view to “local” to see what pops up locally, even in communities I’m not a member of.
I’m also a member of feddit.uk, which focuses on UK stuff. That’s handy for folks in the UK because it’s easier to find locally-relevant stuff.
I would imagine that instances would really compete on channels/communities/magazines and the mods/admins running those. At a certain point, then, the instances would also tend to have some kind of home field advantage on new users who sign up specifically for that instance’s sports communities. Users from other instances can still interact with the most popular communities, but that’s what I imagine when people talk about instances that focus on a particular niche.
It’s federated, so yeah - you can interact with the fediverse from any federated node
The node you call home matters though. You’ll run into your local users more, you’ll come across certain communities more.
The experience is very different. Use multiple accounts, but find a home
We’re out here! I’m an admin at fanaticus.social. We’re a sports-only instance. We’re the instance /u/Garrathian was talking about.
If you miss your sports and want to discuss them, come on over and check us out. We have all the major sports and their teams’ communities set up and have ported the game bot (for baseball right now) over. We’re planning on having the game bots ported over before the start of the other major sports’ seasons.
We’ve only ported over the MLB game bots over to lemmy right now (because it’s the only sport in season) but we’ll be porting the other major sports bots over before the season starts! One of our users created communities for all the major sports teams in preparation for this. If you’d like to mod any let me know!
If the only people who leave Reddit are the ones who understand what a federated FOSS link aggregator is, I think I’d be cool with that. Lemmy’s share of the 3% who have moved on is already pretty impressive, at least in terms of where it was a couple months ago. And the quality of the discourse has been significantly better.
I dunno if Reddit won, but I certainly did.
Check out realgm forums for sports. Was hard cutting off sports community on reddit, but realgm is active and been around for years.
Left on June 30th and never went back. Meanwhile, I’ve posted more comments on lemmy than during 11 years on Reddit. Really hoping lemmy takes off (but without becoming a new Reddit, trolls and all…)
Reddit certainly has changed and I don’t think it will bounce back so easily. It feels like the Mall you used to love that slowly fell from grace where all of your favorite stores slowly closed up shop and you found yourself going elsewhere instead. One day someone brings up the old mall in passing and someone else chimes in that it’s now a flea market. It feels like that’s where Reddit is heading… it feels like Reddit is turning into the Dirt-Mall.
Bounce back? Reddit is growing and 99% of users will keep using it.
It’s a completely different place from 10 or even 5 years ago, and it will never change back.
And yet it dropped all the way to 20th most visited site…
Cope
I wanna say 20th is still pretty high, but quality of posts here are astronomically higher than reddit at the moment and if that continues to be the case, new visitors in general are gonna be signing up for both and will frequent the ones they most frequent. Same way we got on reddit, same way we got off reddit.
It’s not growing as of last month but we will see
That is a type of transition that’s more exponential than linear. As time goes forward the decline gets faster and more noticable. I think you’re right about where Reddit is headed.
The corpse of Digg is still shambling around
Lol, digg is owned by a company literally called BuySellAdsdotcom, Inc. Like, hey I wonder what that company’s north star is?
“You owe me like a dollar!” “Youll have to kill me for it!”
It only cost them the trust of those who trusted them most.
Trust is like a mirror. When broken, you can put it back together but you will ALWAYS see the cracks.
I don’t own a mirror and use random reflective surfaces if I need one, metaphor THAT
I know this is really anecdotal, but it does feel a little different over there now, and not for the better. I can’t really put my finger on what it is, but it does
My experience is the opposite. Apart from the subs still protesting (like /r/videos), it seems like nothing has changed. We have been reminded that Reddit management are pieces of shit, but we knew that since the days of Ellen Pao. Some communities lost some individuals, but all in all it’s business as usual.
The conflict has demonstrated how crucial Reddit’s community is to the site and also revealed the limits of that community’s power.
Power is irrelevant. Only power-tripping egomaniacs even notice an “issue” like that. The only significance of this event is that the voice of the community was heard, and the response from spez was a shameless attempt to shout us down.
There are a lot of people who find Reddit useful and aren’t really interested in the politics of it. As the site fills up with spam and hate because mods are gone, more of the people who just enjoy the site will leave. Unfortunately by then the the IPO will have happened, people will cash out and start the next thing. I don’t think the leaders at Reddit really care about anything except the money.
If they do care they are really going about things the wrong way. For me, I really hope we can switch to things like Lemmy and Mastodon that are not controlled by corporations or advertising.
The real mystery is how any company will look at the current situation of reddit and think “Yes, this looks like it’ll be fully fixed within 6 months, tops, and profitable during 2024”
I don’t see how Reddit ever becomes consistently profitable. I don’t think they can do it with ads and I can’t see a future where a significant number of redditors pay for a premium version of the service.
I thought that there would be no difference with this drama event, like the big boohoo when they fired various people and the time it spearheaded the creation of the toxic dumpster fire Voat, but I have to say that I can see a noticeable difference at Reddit.
I still read Reddit daily on my computer as I use RES on my computer, and I like the layout and ZERO ads and notice that the volume of new posts is WAY down. I read a bit last night, and when I viewed it this morning, the posts were almost all the same, with hardly any new content.
On the flip side, I have noticed a HUGE influx of quality posts here this past week. If a few more of my favorite subs from Reddit move here, I’ll be set. I just wish there was a browser extension like RES here for Lemmy.
In tech subreddits there’s a ton of deleted posts. And noticeable less responses.
Reddit just became less relevant for tech troubleshooting, specially on Linux or foss communities. That they lost.
