YouTube isn’t happy you’re using ad blockers — and it’s doing something about it::undefined

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    1 year ago

    What about android apps like “revanced” which allow you to have all the premium features and ad blocking without having to pay premium. It is legal as well.

    All a person has to do is google search for it and download a proper version YouTube apk and then patch it and they are off to the races!

    I used to pay for YouTube family for years, but they got greedy and raised prices. Now after about 30 mins of getting it set up once I never have to pay again.

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      i run the mobile firefox app with virtually the same add-ons as i do on pc. it’s not quite as snappy as a native app on a mobile device, but it works well. you can even turn the screen off and the videos continue to play (music/podcasts/etc) as they did in the vanced app.

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      I could never figure it out. I did it once with vanced then could never figure out revanved.

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    This may be a hot take but I think it’s quite important for YouTube to be profitable because of how difficult running a video platform is already causing there to be no competition. Yeah, I would 100% prefer YouTube without ads (I pay for Premium) and I would love for there to be competition but considering the state of video streaming and how expensive it gets, I’m all for YouTube getting money.

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      I think if it’s not possible to run anymore without ads, then it’s time to shutter YT and let the competition fill in the gaps.

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        The problem is that running a video streaming platform is too expensive for there to be competition and YouTube is the only platform with the user base to be able to do it while being profitable. If you want no ads because ads are annoying but you also don’t want to pay for premium, you’re advocating for piracy (which I’m not against either), but if you expect them to keep the servers running even after that, you’re not living in reality

        Just to add one more thing, if your criticism of premium is that they still collect your data after that, fair enough (get newpipe), but if you simply want to use YouTube for free and aren’t that bothered about your privacy (like when you use adblock on a browser) then that’s not consistent with that argument either.

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          Which is why peertube exists. Dont run a video streaming platform. Run 10 million streaming platforms all tied together.

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            Yeah, but where’s the user base and content? That’s why YouTube is successful.

            As much as I love to shit on Elon Musk and twitter X, the fact that he’s paying users that generate traffic to his website means that he realizes the importance of user generated content. That’s one good thing I commend him for.

        • planish@sh.itjust.works
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          too expensive for there to be competition

          How does that work, exactly? For something like a railroad or a power grid, you get a natural monopoly because you need a system to connect everyone to everyone else for it to really work, and you need to pay to build out the connection to each person.

          For video streaming, you need to pay for servers to transcode, store, and serve the video. Which is expensive, sure. But then each user comes in over the Internet; you aren’t paying to connect directly to their house, and you aren’t putting a CDN node in every town when the town has 5 users who can just talk to the central deployment.

          If you want to run ads, you find some network that places video ads, and you get the ads from them and you run them. Maybe they don’t pay enough and the service is not profitable, but what would make that change if the service were bigger?

          Where are the huge, unassailable costs? Where is the revenue you can’t get unless you are the absolute biggest?

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            The issue is content. Sites like daily motion didn’t have the content to bring in the user base. No users means less incentive to make content means less incentive to make content for it, means less users and so on… that’s the real reason no one’s got competition

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    Youtube can go fuck itself. I was one of the few people who was committed to not using an adblocker - corporate assholes or not, I recognized that advertising was why Youtube exists for free.

    3 unskippable ads on every fucking video broke me. Youtube can burn, I’m just burning bandwidth until it does.

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        I think they’re just implying that even if YouTube figures out how to block adblock, someone will just find a way to block the adblock block and so on ad infinitum. It will just be the same game of cat and mouse we’ve been playing for years with the intrusive ad business.

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      tech savvy purple is my favorite color

      edit: the typo was funny, man. why did you have to fix it

  • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    YouTube, I’ve been using ad-blockers since the advent of pop-up ads in the late 90s. You’ve never been able to stop this, and you aren’t going to now.

    I don’t use the YouTube app or watch your videos on my browser. I use FreeTube on desktop, LibreTube and GrayJay on mobile and FCast on TV so 🖕

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        1 year ago

        You’re welcome. I recommend disabling the Piped API as it will cause constant connectivity issues, and you don’t need it if you have a VPN.

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      1 year ago

      Can you tell me more about fcast? I’m looking to get away from ads and app limitations on Chromecast but I need the same phone-based UX

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The thing is YouTube just can’t be nice about it. It just cannot. In times that it was adblocker resistant, they’d add more and longer and worse ads until they pissed off enough engineers who collectively declared it a crisis and built the many anti-YouTube-ad solutions we have, from alternative YouTube mirrors to the Firefox packages.

    We’ve seen this play out in the tech industry multiple times, and always the public wins thanks, largely to programmers who just get ticked off and spend a weekend on pizza to create a bypass.

    The executives at Alphabet know all they have to do is allow concessions to be only mildly annoying and leave them. Five minutes of commercials for fifty minutes of content? That might be fair so long as it’s pizza ads and not Jesus ministries telling us how sinful the LGBT+ are or Matt Walsh suggesting we make it illegal for some folk to vote.

    But they can’t do that. Shareholder Primacy means Alphabet must push for record profits, even if it means enshittifying all their services, including YouTube, and that means a 1/4 ad to content ratio and increasing that until it’s intolerable and ad-based profit numbers go down due to failing viewership.

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      Five minutes of commercials for fifty minutes of content?

      Yeah, and besides, that shit barely functions on TV/streaming because someone paid to have quality content created. When you’re clicking around yt and you don’t know if a video is decent or dogshit, why should you have to sit through long ads just so you can watch a minute before you decide the content sucks?

      • SeeingWhereThisGoes@sh.itjust.works
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        This is frequently brought up as a problem for twitch as well. On the rare times someone decides to check out a new streamer without many viewers they get ads before the stream and most people aren’t going to sit through that for a streamer of unknown quality so it makes it even harder for new streamers to get discovered.

  • Dagoth Ur (the god)@lemmy.ml
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    Nerevar, dont scare me like that. What is it Nerevar? it’s 4 am! i am not due for my daily skibidi toilet until 10 am.
    Nerevar, you fool. What an intoxicating and grand irrelevancy. I pay the guild of google 12 bucks a month so they leave me alone with ads. Why would I Dagoth Ur(the god), care for such an issue. I am a god, Nerevar. I can pay whatever i want. No i will not buy girlscout cookies for you. Go back to bed. You’re waking up the gnomes. I do not care for their nuisance.

      • CRT 📺@lemm.ee
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        Make sure you clear all caches and update the filters in uBO, that’s the recommended way to prevent the message from popping up

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    1 year ago

    I watch YouTube from my TV, and my Pihole can’t block the ads. So I splurged for premium (which costs about $5/month where I’m at) and would do it again in a heartbeat. Way better experience.

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        Oh man. I would think twice if my cost was that high.

        I do believe good creators should be compensated so I think of this subscription as the alternative to letting the advertisers pay them to get in front of me. I think ad blockers result in the creator not getting the ad revenue, right?

    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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      Is this account run by Google intern? Look at how it’s written.

      “Also, I love listening to the newest tunes. And with YouTube music, I can get songs, subscribe to podcasts, and more!”

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    1 year ago

    Too fuckin bad for YouTube. I won’t change my behavior, I’ll just not use YouTube.

    Fuck em

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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        What happens when google decides to fix this? What happens to the data beyond the free tier? My guess is that it’ll be deleted, and you’d be screwed if you used this as your backup solution.

        E: still a really cool hack!

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        That’s amazing but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to here that anyone who did got it reversed if not just outright banned from Google. I certainly wouldn’t have tried in on my main Google account.

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    The day I can’t get around youtube ads is the day I stop using youtube. I already refuse to use it on my mobile device or my TV, due to the ads.

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      1 year ago

      On Android the Firefox app allows the use of extensions including all the adblock options you would find on PC. Works great and for YouTube as well.

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      YouTube ReVanced gets you completely adfree, configurably de-shittified Youtube with sponsorblock on your phone. (And Youtube Music ReVanced is premium YT music, for free, of course also without ads.)

      And Smarttube Next does the same thing on Android TVs, FireTV, and probably some others I haven’t used.

      • PeWu@lemmy.ml
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        It doesn’t block it, it doesn’t even download them or even request them. There is no concept of ad in NewPipe.

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            The official newpipe isn’t on the play store because it breaks their terms of service, which makes sense considering 2 of the 3 “newpipes” on there are just completely different apps using the name and logo of newpipe. The third is actually newpipe but with loads of ads added, not sure how long it’ll last before Google nukes it.

            But yeah for newpipe just get the offical ad free and open source version from TeamNewPipe on GitHub or on F-Droid in the main repo. Or if you want newpipe with no ads and also with sponsorblock, you want to get it from polymorphicshade on GitHub or through F-Droid with the Izzyondroid repo.

            • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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              On the subject of newpipe, if you also view a lot of videos on NicoNico, Japanese yt, I recommend the pipepipe fork since it allows you to play both yt videos along with videos from NicoNico without ads. Also works with BiliBili in case you like listening to Chinese vocaloid songs or other Chinese content without ads.