• Gabu@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hurr durr, now that a palestinian terrorist group is attacking is the best moment to be vocal about palestinian freedom

    And you people wonder why you get downvoted?

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        8 months ago

        Not at all. That was still the wrong moment to do it. NOW (and for the past few months, since Israel began its full-blown open genocide) is the right time.

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          8 months ago

          Hey thanks for the response.

          Has your opinion of Isreal changed because of the last few months? If so has that changed how you view their actions in the past against the Palestinian people?

          If the comparison of Russia in Ukraine to Isreal in Palestine was only made legitimate in the past few months, then how do you view the Nakba?

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            8 months ago

            Has your opinion of Isreal changed because of the last few months?

            It changed insofar as going from “they’re a pretty horrible fascist society” to “they’re straight up Nazis”.

            If so has that changed how you view their actions in the past against the Palestinian people?

            Not really.

            If the comparison of Russia in Ukraine to Isreal in Palestine was only made legitimate in the past few months […]

            You’re commiting a fallacy, I believe and hope unintentionally. Israel has always been the aggressor, I’ve never contradicted that. However, defending a population associated with a vile terrorist group at a time said group has just attacked is simply bad politics - you’ll not get many allies and now your detractors have a concrete event to point towards when dismissing your position. At present, Israel has effectively admitted to wanting a genocide and Hamas has waved the white flag multiple times, so it’s the perfect moment, politically, to defend the Palestine.

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      1 year ago

      You’re telling on yourself. You genuinely don’t give a shit about the Palestinian struggle. You just want them to sit down and take their genocide.

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        1 year ago

        Perhaps they could sit down when it comes to killing innocent civvies and stick to military targets. I have always been outspoken in Palestine’s favor but lines were crossed and nobody should support it.

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          17 days ago

          Fun fact watch videos on Israel’s civi takes about Palestine. May open your eyes a bit about the innocence thats available in that geographic region for anyone.

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          1 year ago

          Try attacking military bases and armored vehicles with fireworks.

          Read about war history. Civilian strikes are usually countered with opposite civilian strikes.

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          1 year ago

          i am not supporting it, but i have hard times defending israel either, both sides are an absolute shit show and have their reasons, but in my eyes, the palestines have a stronger claim to the land. then again, this whole war is based on religions, where i, as an atheist, have nothing to say at all, because without religions, there wouldnt be a claimable holy city and no war whos the truthful owner of it, it would just be another land.

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            1 year ago

            this whole war is based on religions

            Not entirely, there is a lot of geopolitical power struggle there as well. Israel was born as a “western puppet” that soon grew and became “too important to abandon”. Without it, the arab nations would be more likely to ignore whatever the western powers demand, as they’d have a hard time reaching them. With Israel, it’s like a gun’s permanently pointed at them and “any funny business” against them means you also have to deal with USA