as someone who lives in the UK, seeing Andrew Tate’s influence on kids is really depressing. those kids are gonna grow up as assholes not knowing any better
When I was younger, I looked up to a guy who was a piece of shit like Andrew Tate. I started acting like him and treating people poorly. I lost good friends and relationships. I realized that I was losing them because I was being a piece of shit. So I stopped.
I guess my point is, even if someone is a piece of shit after looking up to Andrew Tate, they’re not hopeless.
PS: that guy ended up getting a girl pregnant accidentally. No idea where he is now, but I hope he’s not being a piece of shit to his kid.
Nearly eight in ten 16-17 year-old boys in the UK have watched Tate’s content, according to a survey by the anti-extremism group Hope Not Hate, with just over half viewing him in a positive light.
The difference is what was considered acceptable. My father in law (who is an asshole) told a story about how they would make comments to a woman he worked with about her boobs. This was in the 70s. She didn’t have much choice but to put up with it. There was no HR to go to, or they wouldn’t care. So they kept doing it.
Nowadays people are a lot more cautious at work. I know it’s just one setting, but that’s a great example how things have changed generationally.
Yup. Just to emphasize the point – the term “sexual harassment” didn’t exist in the 1960s as a legal term. It only really came about in the mid-1970s as a result of feminist lawyers applying ideas from civil-rights law to gender and the workplace.
Thank you, these threads get so frustrating. Every thread where boomers get mentioned, there’s so much hate, and a lot of questionable information. Younger generations have done so good about fighting intolerance, and have a lot of the credit for progress with women’s rights, LGBTQ+ rights, etc., but so many people seem completely comfortable making sweeping generalizations about boomers all being money grubbing misogynistic bigots. I don’t think this community would stand for it if people said “I can’t wait until they’re all dead” about any other group, but I see it regularly about boomers.
And a lot of the impressions are just wrong. Here’s a Pew research chart on the 2020 election demographics by age. Yes, it does show that there are more older Trump voters than older Biden voters, but take a look at the magnitude of the differences - it’s very small. Also notice that the difference between the number of younger Trump voters and younger Biden voters isn’t that great either.
People think all the older people are wearing MAGA hats and all the younger people are wearing pride shirts, but the reality is the amount that the age groups skew one way or the other isn’t that huge. There are tons of liberal older people (like me) and lots of conservative younger people.
Just because you feel that, doesn’t make it true.
There’s no real difference between boomers and anyone else. Still using the same wetware as every other human for 10k years.
There will be rapey boomers, rapey gen x, rapey millenials and rapey gen z.
For example, Andrew Fucking Tate and his regressive masculinity bollocks is extremely popular all over
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/anti-toxic-masculinity-movement
as someone who lives in the UK, seeing Andrew Tate’s influence on kids is really depressing. those kids are gonna grow up as assholes not knowing any better
Yeah… but I think the question is: if Andrew Tate didn’t exist, how many of those assholes would be balanced well adjusted men. Not many.
good point
You don’t think role models affect how kids develop?
Of course they do, but my point is, how many kids with parents who are good role models are attracted to Tate?
When I was younger, I looked up to a guy who was a piece of shit like Andrew Tate. I started acting like him and treating people poorly. I lost good friends and relationships. I realized that I was losing them because I was being a piece of shit. So I stopped.
I guess my point is, even if someone is a piece of shit after looking up to Andrew Tate, they’re not hopeless.
PS: that guy ended up getting a girl pregnant accidentally. No idea where he is now, but I hope he’s not being a piece of shit to his kid.
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Lol, those kids are funny. They’ll be alright.
this made me want to game end
Just because some statistics show something like
Doesn’t mean that every single one of those views were done in the same way.
I watched some crazy shit when I was 16 but I didn’t think Faces Of Death was anything more than entertainment.
You could just read the article I linked
That is a seriously alarming number
The difference is what was considered acceptable. My father in law (who is an asshole) told a story about how they would make comments to a woman he worked with about her boobs. This was in the 70s. She didn’t have much choice but to put up with it. There was no HR to go to, or they wouldn’t care. So they kept doing it.
Nowadays people are a lot more cautious at work. I know it’s just one setting, but that’s a great example how things have changed generationally.
Not commenting on people’s appearance at work is an 80/90s thing.
Yup. Just to emphasize the point – the term “sexual harassment” didn’t exist in the 1960s as a legal term. It only really came about in the mid-1970s as a result of feminist lawyers applying ideas from civil-rights law to gender and the workplace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment#Etymology_and_history
Thank you, these threads get so frustrating. Every thread where boomers get mentioned, there’s so much hate, and a lot of questionable information. Younger generations have done so good about fighting intolerance, and have a lot of the credit for progress with women’s rights, LGBTQ+ rights, etc., but so many people seem completely comfortable making sweeping generalizations about boomers all being money grubbing misogynistic bigots. I don’t think this community would stand for it if people said “I can’t wait until they’re all dead” about any other group, but I see it regularly about boomers.
And a lot of the impressions are just wrong. Here’s a Pew research chart on the 2020 election demographics by age. Yes, it does show that there are more older Trump voters than older Biden voters, but take a look at the magnitude of the differences - it’s very small. Also notice that the difference between the number of younger Trump voters and younger Biden voters isn’t that great either.
People think all the older people are wearing MAGA hats and all the younger people are wearing pride shirts, but the reality is the amount that the age groups skew one way or the other isn’t that huge. There are tons of liberal older people (like me) and lots of conservative younger people.
And Rooshv is a genx. Brock Turner is millenial