Looks like its over for me and youtube. Being told I cant watch because of an ad blocker.
Where is everyone moving to and using instead of youtube? I will just move to the same place.
ublock origin is still one step ahead of them (at least on firefox) but you may need to go into the extension settings and purge then update all your filter lists. I copy of Invidious I installed on my NAS is even more steps ahead.
ublock origin is still one step ahead of them (at least on firefox) but you may need to go into the extension settings and purge then update all your filter lists.
Specific instructions can be found here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/6089078
The copy of Invidious I installed on my NAS is even more steps ahead.
I too have an NAS that runs Docker and have been looking for things to run on it. Container++! :D
It’s handy. The main downside, since I’m the only person watching videos on the instance, is that my popular tab and subscription tabs are the same videos in a different order. So there’s not much of a chance for discovering new channels.
invidious is the way. You don’t need to self host it:
NewPipe doesn’t show ads.
Just googled this also but similar issue to freetube? Just an app to the same service if I understand correctly?
If the people you watch only upload to YouTube, how would they be available on other services?
Yes obviously there is a problem here exactly like the reddit to lemmy problem. Just another obstacle but thats okay. Probably it is solvable.
For video hosting? Good luck, that’s almost certainly never going to happen. There is not one single competitor to Youtube even from corporations, there is no way any decentralised solution will work long term, especially not if you are expecting features like 4k or 60fps+ content.
Yeah, not possible as of now imo
Not quite - NewPipe is a YouTube client as well. It’s just that it also support PeerTube (a decentralised video hosting solution).
For YouTube, NewPipe is an
anonymousaccount-free, ad-blocking client. You can import your current YouTube subscriptions using a Google Takeout dump (the NewPipe app gives you instructions) and you can add more channel subs directly in the app.The benefits are no YouTube ads, and it’s privacy-friendly but with channel subs - you’re escaping the algorithm. To get the benefit of subs on YouTube directly, you need to login, which means they’re mining your video watching data and using it to target you (and possibly sell that data to others).
For YouTube, NewPipe is an anonymous…
Not quite. From LibreTube’s GitHub page on their differences:
With NewPipe, the extraction is done locally on your phone, and all the requests sent towards YouTube/Google are done directly from the network you’re connected to, which doesn’t use a middleman server in between. Therefore, Google can still access information such as the user’s IP address. Aside from that, subscriptions can only be stored locally.
LibreTube takes this one step further and proxies all requests via Piped (which uses the NewPipeExtractor). This prevents Google servers from accessing your IP address or any other personal data.
Either way, I use a VPN for both.
You’re right - NewPipe isn’t totally anonymous.
The distinction I was trying to make was that you didn’t have to use a Google/YouTube account. I should’ve made that clearer.
Libretube. Get v0.19 or higher, youtube just screwed around with its code and broke v0.18. I love how it works with sponsor block to even skip those “this video is brought to you by xyz incorporated, be sure to Yada Yada Yada…” segments.
Get v0.19 or higher
Thanks for that. For some reason I thought it notified on updates automatically like NewPipe does, and I was still on v0.16.1. Oops.
uYou+ on iOS (installed from GitHub using Sideloadly or AltStore) is working great, even skips sponsored segments and allows background playback
Unpopular opinion - The ads aren’t that long and content creators deserve to get paid.
I know that doesn’t answer your question but I don’t think a few seconds of ads is worth leaving a platform over.
Counteropinion:
The Ads are too many, disturb the experience a lot and the creators earn more through other means like patreon or merchandise.
And you acting like 2 unskippable 30 second ads before a 2 minute video is just “a few seconds” shows that you don’t watch YouTube a lot.
I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I’ve had to watch a minute worth of ads for two minutes of video
I watch more YouTube than any other type of media.
I know I won’t convince you though.
They don’t really make much from the YouTube ads though. You might make $2000 if your video hits a million views and chances are that money is going to be split between a crew of people. There is a reason you see all of them having their own does or their own merch or a long list of Patreon subscribers. If you actually want to pay the content creators, buy their stuff or subscribe to them via Patreon.
I remember when YouTube first came out. It wasn’t a “career” there were no content creators. People made and uploaded videos because they wanted to. Then ads appeared on channels that were monetised, they got a cut. This I was fine with. Now non monetised channels have ads everyone has ads
Ok, if I remember correctly, YouTube barely generates, but generates nonetheless revenue for Google. There are many ways to make more money without fucking over its users by cutting costs:
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downgrade old videos with small watch count to 720p30
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make people pay for hosting >1080p60 content
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do not allow private/unlisted videos
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straight up remove 10h looped videos - they take so much space, but are technically spam - both for bandwidth and storage
And my go-to solution: focus on sponsorships as main source of revenue. They are the only ads I can tolerate and are actually effective from my experience. YouTube can just take a cut from every sponsorship on YouTube video and everyone will be happy.
Sponsorblock addon is a must for me nowadays
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Update your ad blocker, you only get that when it’s out of date
I didn’t go anywhere. I spend a lot of time on YouTube and enjoy the service immensely. Also, YouTube Music is my main streaming source. And yeah, I pay for both, every month. It’s worth it to me. YMMV.
Lol they downvoted you for using your disposable income how you wished.
This is still Reddit after all.
Yeah no way Im paying for youtube. Totally bizarre concept to me.
How so? Servers aren’t free. Either you pay in cash or you pay in ads.
I run a lemmy server and nobody pays anything to use it. It a public service by me for anyone.
Just because some company hasnt figured out how to do it doesnt mean something cannot exist for the good of the public run by members of the public.
Im not interested in conforming to imposed problems personally. Im interested in building resilient systems. That was why we invented technology as humans to begin with. Otherwise whats the point.
Video bandwidth is expensive. Plus YouTube pays the creators too for producing the content. I subscribe to YouTube, and haven’t had a real TV subscription in years. Totally still saving money. In terms of hours per dollar per month, it’s gotta be pennies for me. Plus YouTube music and downloading to my phone to save data is kinda nice too.
Are you really trying to compare a text/link service with ~10k users to a HD video service with millions of users?
Hopefully most of us understand that. I think for a lot of us it’s privacy/ethical issues with Google
You say content creators should not be paid for their work? And Google should provide all those servers and bandwidth for free?
I started paying for Google music when it started because I didn’t like Spotify. Now I’ve been paying for so long it doesn’t make sense to move away. When they implementet YT premium, I was hooked. I haven’t seen an ad in years.
Also, streaming music and video is also way more data intensive, I wouldn’t expect the random good Samaritan to pay the server costs for me. Yeah ads suck, but I don’t see it as such a crazy thing to pay for not to have. Two decades ago you’d pay for cable and still get ads.
I don’t approve of Google blocking adblockers because I’m sure it doesn’t hurt their bottom line that much, but I also don’t blame them.
The issue is 10 minutes x 5 ads for a 10 minute video. In what universe is this ok? I was ok with 1short ad at the start of the video but now they also randomly show up. Face it, Google is simply greedy. They know the jig is up and is cashing out as long as possible before it crashes.
Google screwed up like a lot of companies do. YouTube was never profitable to run. They were just burning through cash to keep the lights on and become the number one video host online.
Internally there became a mandate to try and turn it into a profit making machine and the advertisers caught wind so they stepped in with their demands knowing that they were going to be the source of the profits. This is where the content restrictions started to happen as videos needed to become ad friendly.
I wish YouTube would have figured out another path to help provide the service and pay video creators. At least with Premium you don’t get ads and Sponsor Skip means you don’t see embedded VPN and game sponsors.
I’m happy it works for you but unless no tracking/privacy violations is included in their subscription model this will not work for a lot of people here.
Same, privacy concerns are huge for me. Also, there’s no way I’m paying $18.99 a month for it, that’s comically expensive. It’s the same as Netflix’s top tier plan, and at least Netflix has the expense of producing their own content to (attempt) to justify that cost.
Peertube is like early Youtube - people making videos for whoever might happen to be interested, without monetary incentive. Plus a lot of crazy mixed in.
Now I generally avoid all “free” commercial services that expect you to pay with your data or by watching ads.If I want professionally made content, I have to pay real money for it, because making that content costs real money.
But there’s also still lots of people out there who make content for the fun of it, and it’s equally fun to explore that.Can’t say there’s no crazy mixed in on PeerTube either lol. And as much as I’d love to like PeerTube… There’s just nothing that brings me back, content wise.
You just don’t see content like this on Youtube anymore, lol.
https://video.triplea.fr/w/nNdeA3fvLEKKd5HRJBeb12
https://kraut.zone/w/c3e722ca-bb41-45f0-b12f-477c877de76dNo judgement if you like it, but do I want and need content like that second one lol?
There’s heaping tons of demo scene stuff on YT, no?
I checked it out last night. I really wanted to like it, but man, it sucks. There’s currently very little content that I like and it seems to be a lot slower to load and navigate than YouTube. Even when i found something that I liked, the video kept buffering and buffering. It was overall a horrible experience. And i tried a couple instances. They all had those issues.
I want to like it but… It sucks. :/
I would love if it didn’t. Lemmy for example does not suck, neither does mastadon. But peertube… It sucks.
It’s not the fault of the service. It sucks because the content is just not there. So it’s people’s fault for not using it, but of course they don’t, since the users are not there.
Nobody is leaving YouTube. There’s no viable alternative right now because of how expensive hosting video is.
AdNauseum Firefox
Just sign out and remove all the youtube cookies and the adblockers still work just fine. Sign in when you want to comment or use another browser that is signed in and never watch the video on that browser. Simple solution. Another option is watch the video by right clicking and opening in a “new private window” instead of watching while signed in. That works really well until you want to comment.
Let’s be real, who’s commenting on YouTube anymore?
Use Piped.
I still haven’t encountered this. Use FF with updated uBO filter lists and you should be fine.
