If Reddit were to revert it’s changes to 3rd party apps would you stay on Lemmy or move back to Reddit?
Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn’t the first break. Big social is having problems, it’s the natural course of things.
This is a great point!
The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.
Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.
Of course, there will be people who just don’t care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don’t care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don’t moderate any subreddits, and don’t follow the Internet news.
I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.
The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.
Link? That’s not good news :/
I think that’s from his AMA response
Ah, that’s based off the AMA he “did”. So nothing newer than that?
I haven’t seen any new news compared to yesterday in spez’s AMA. Nothing in regards to him responding to the forthcoming blackout (which is currently 3800+ / 6625 subs)
Right, is that starting at like 12 EST or PST?
I don’t know if it’s specific to any one timezone. They reddark tracker is basing it off of UTC-4 at the moment and I would imagine someone on the other side of the world wouldn’t stay up overnight to match a single timezone. Maybe the mods will move to private when they wake up in the morning. Long way of saying IDK honestly lol.
Yeah, I realized as I was typing it that it was probably going to be pretty random
Not just that, they also announced their intent to turn reddit into an even more ad-infested hellhole: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads
This is the future of reddit in the official app everyone: https://www.redditinc.com/assets/images/site/image2.gif
The redditinc thing is freaking hilarious.
For me, they’d have to
- Replace /u/spez
- Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
- Open-source significant parts of their platform.
I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.
Did he get caught editing comments again? And the shadowbanning?
Not recently… I’m just completely out trust and benefit of the doubt based on the various controversies and where their (Tencent) money is coming from.
Reddit showed their hand and I’m just done with all these corpos. Reddit is my last hold out and I’m slowly leaving that too. I’m moving to the decentralized FOSS future that I believe in where we the people have the power.
Personally I doubt I’ll delete my account on Reddit. But as someone who will cling to old.reddit.com and adguard to the bitter end, I’ll happily let my account gather dust unless there’s a support question or something for a community that hasn’t taken off here.
Keeping Reddit as a backup will at least being me some productivity back. I’m supposed to be a writer, I would probably down more times actually doing that anyway.
Nothing could convince me to go back, we need decentralization.
I would half move back. There are a lot of niche subs that I can’t find here, like r/NonCredibleDiplomacy. But I would still use Lemmy, it is more homey.
Reddit is absolutely, 100% certainly not going to step back on these change. They’ve made up their mind long ago.
But just for the hypothetical: I think they lost a LOT of trust with the two most essential parts of the community - users and mods. Also the company (or rather, its CEO) may have taken significant image damage due to the “AMA” spez did.
I think business will go on as usual, but the decline will be more and more noticable over time. It will go the way of Digg. Unless of course reddit decides to hire moderation themselves. But we all know they probably wont want do do that. The course seems set to selling the data they have already accumulated.
I doubt reddit will hire mods, they’ve been crying the platform is not profitable, imagine having to pay several millions more, tho reddit without mods is dead.
I’m not going back, epescially since Apollo will be shutting down. I’m looking forward to what the dev can do with the Mlem iOS app, and I’m very interested in the community that is being built here.
I’ve overwritten and deleted all my comments and posts and nuked my account. This is my new home.
Personally, I don’t see myself going back. I’ll just chill with my new community here.
Same
I fully support all the reasons for ditching Reddit altogether, but if I can’t use Apollo, I’ll only ever use it on desktop, and even then just to look stuff up via Google.
Installed Mlem and have committed to making this place a good one.
The apollo_for_reddit developer (android) is looking into making their app compatible with alternative platforms, hopefully more Reddit apps follow suit so they can make interacting on Lemmy as frictionless as possible
Most of the people fleeing Reddit aren’t leaving just because of recent changes. A lot of people were already looking for alternatives, yet failing to find one active or familiar enough. So now we’re here.
I dont see most less technical users moving at all without some more UI maturity. The whole federated services thing is just a bit too abstract a concept for most. And right now its difficult to find/join communities outside your instance.
I don’t think it’s too abstract for people. I think we’re all just really bad at explaining it to non-techies.
When you move to a city, choosing the neighborhood you want to buy your house in doesn’t stop you from being able to drive around looking at others.
It ain’t rocket science.
That’s a very good way of explaining it.
Honestly, there’s a pull request right now on lemmy-ui for instance agnostic linking, that combined with automatically staying on your instance will completely resolve the only issue I see for normal people.
That and a little jank here and there but that’s bound to get buffed out.
Agree those two changes would be good. Along with making the ability to add topic sorting or community grouping where you can view say, all “technology” communities in a url. Or all Linux communities across instances in a big group etc.
The confusion seems unwarranted to me, though. It’s literally the same as email. Every time I discuss fediverse with people, all of their confusion stems from presumed complexity that doesn’t actually exist. The server they pick matters just as much as it does for their email. So the process is: create an account somewhere, and start interacting with communities. That’s it.
Right. Agree. But searching for communities, especially those outside your instance can be wonky. Finding communities and grouping like communities across instances is difficult as it currently sits. And it takes a bit of understanding how to search to find things.
I’m sure that as more users join it will get easier
See my post history if the ui is bothering you. With Sylus browser add on, some very small ui tweaks make the site much easier on the eyes
Agreed. I’ve been enjoying this site so far but I know most of my friends would hate it. It needs better UI. They also needa ELI5 all the fediverse shit and then have a TL;DR easily accesible to new visitors.
Or we(the community) needa ELI5 that shit, make memes about them, and maybe rename the fediverse because it sounds too generic.
https://calckey.social/tags/Reddit has the best ui i’ve seen in the fediverse but it’s for mastodon
It definitely looks amazing. Though no downvote button made me avoid Mastodon altogether.
after I found out about the fediverse I’ve wondered why not more people use it and why it wasn’t already popular
Because most people just don’t understand it. It’s has a high barrier of entry (relatively speaking) and there aren’t really any good mobile apps. While I love the idea of the fed Ivette I just can’t imagine trying to explain it to everyone that’s isn’t tech savvy.
For most people it’s just a bit too arcane.
It wouldn’t matter at all, because it’s just a matter of time before they implement such features and don’t back down.
They’ll just continue shit-testing us until the blowback isn’t enormous if they go this route.
I don’t think I’ll go back except for niche content/communities I don’t expect to see here for a while.
