• heavy@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Good to see people agree on this. The way that gambling in sports has flourished really targets and is detrimental to young men, IMO. I’ve noticed that younger men tend to feel it’s normal to risk a significant amount of money gambling on almost all sports, to include E-sports, when really it shouldn’t be something they think about constantly.

    I like gambling as much as the next person, and I feel like you should be allowed to if you’re responsible, but I think we shouldn’t be glorifying gambling like it’s just something everyone does. Shame on all these celebrities using their status to trick younger people into gambling.

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      It’s honestly insane. I have been watching sports with the same group of people for almost 30 years now, and the past few years it’s gotten fucking insufferable. These people genuinely believe that they’ve got a system going, doing bet arbitrage against their six different apps and seventeen different accounts. They don’t even watch the fucking game. They are just watching phones and laptops. I hate it.

      So what ends up is that I’m watching our team win, and happy about it, but half the room is punching holes in the wall because thirteen different stats across six different games didn’t magically align to give them a 100:1 payout. Two of the original group have literally taken on major debt to fund their addiction and still think it’s perfectly fine to keep betting.

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    I have personally seen gambling fuck up way more lives than drugs, and this was before it was being shoved down our throats. It’s honestly disgusting how shameless the advertising has been, getting people to gamble like degenerates in “garbage time.” Or poking fun at people “losing their shirt” in Buffalo. And don’t even get me started at how they are using fantasy sports to get kids hooked early.

    Fuck this so much. I know entire families - children, parents, grandparents - who’ve been put through hell over this.

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      The fantasy sports are all about evading local gambling laws. Since only a handful of states even allow sports betting the only way to operate in those states is to have something which is legally distinct from gambling (even though it clearly is). It’s similar to paremovedo parlours in Japan.

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        It doesn’t matter if they choose to start, it matters that they weren’t able to stop, gambling and alcohol have both been extremely normalized in our society and are destroying lives. We shouldn’t have ads shoved down our throats for industries that profit off of destroying people’s lives for a quick buck. Shit aint right. I’m not saying make the industries illegal, just make the ads illegal. Saying drink responsibly at the end of an alcohol ad isn’t making anyone less of an alcoholic. And the tiny ass barely readable gambling addiction hotline isn’t gonna help anyone with a gambling addiction from getting hooked on sports Gambling which is one click away on the app store.

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            Hmmm then maybe we should make ads glamorizing gambling illegal. I really dont understand what you are trying to say with your comments here…

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            It matters from a cause-and-effect standpoint, but you’re callously and self-righteously blaming their whole situation on it. That you stop trying to understand the situation at that point reveals that you’re using it as an excuse to blame peoples’ suffering exclusively on their personal choices to feel better about yourself. That completely ignores any circumstances, predatory draws, nonstandard brain chemistry, or other factors outside of their control and assume they had perfect, complete knowledge of the situation and consequences at the time – which is honestly silly.

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      Mississippi grind is an absolutely incredible depiction of just how sad and devastating gambling addictions are. I can’t recommend that movie enough (as long as you’re ready for some sad storytelling).

      Livestream online gambling is another one of those absolutely abysmal modern exposures that is going to completely destroy the lives of young men as they grow up, and I can’t believe it’s still legal

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      yup, I worked at a horse track when I was in HS, and the gamblers AKA addicts had the exact same behaviors as drug addicts.

      poor people getting exploited by the rich, but legal

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      My step dad committed suicide after losing our rent money at the video poker machine at the bar.

      It had such a big impact on our family that four years later my mom did too after struggling with depression over it.

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          Thank you, it’s been five years since the loss of my mom. You never get over it, just better at dealing with it. I was never close to my step-dad.

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    I don’t understand the reasoning of gambling being legal, but advertising it illegal. Advertising isn’t the “bad” part.

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      Because it shouldnt be popular, but making it completely illegal is quite invasive.

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      For the same reason tobacco ads are illegal, yet you can still buy cigarettes. Prohibition doesnt work, thats why we have rules and regulations. Advertising something that is highly addictive should be highly regulated.

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      Here in the USA it’s how they get the poor to pay back the natives, instead of taxing the wealthy heirs of stolen land.

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    In my city the government runs the gambling, so I see nothing but government sponsored gambling, it’s quite obscene.

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      Yeah that’s the thing. I Support gambling being legal, but it, alcohol, marijuana, tobacco, etc shouldn’t be allowed to advertise. These are harmful vices. It’s your choice to engage in them but advertising them isn’t cool

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        I think they should be legal to do, but I’m a little more iffy on if it should be legal to sell or profit off of the addictive ones.
        Gambling doesn’t really bring anything valuable to society and it causes notable harm, so I see no reason we shouldn’t tax gambling revenue at a nearly 100% rate.

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    In Lithuania it’s legal, but they cannot say any words like “let’s play” or “best casinos” etc. I don’t know specific, but most of casino/betting ads are like these (always with the weird/annoying voice)

    , casino!

    , casino!

    , casino!

    , casino!

    , casino!

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    There is so much cognitive dissonance between the warning at the bottom of the screen and the content of the commercial. Totally agreed.

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    Governments want that tax income. They want that business to boom. They don’t care about the side effects.

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      It goes beyond tax money, but that’s a part of it for sure. Gambling in the USA at least helps prop up the ‘American Dream’ by keeping the under privileged poor and in-debt. Because at any minute they could become mega rich! Except they won’t especially as the addiction will tell them to double down and make them lose it all.

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    I get why we want to get away from that dumbass(heh) that’s the normal part of this meme?

    But Red would give zero fucks about gambling.

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        I think he would call you a dumbass for getting into gambling, but would view someone running the business as just a businessman. He may be wary of the gang associating with him but I don’t think he’d view him as a bad dude

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        If Red met me his brain would literally explode because of all the different fucking reasons to call me a dumbass.

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      Hey we have a law for that in our country. There are some exceptions but those have to be individually permitted.

      That being said fantasy sports bets and some other gambling games try to dodge the classification as a gambling game.

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        There should be one specific place where advertisements are allowed and contained. If you need X, go to the X page on the one place for advertising and check out your options. No more shoving things people don’t need down their throats. Make people seek out the things they need rather than be convinced they need what they don’t.

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        I actually don’t (well, didn’t) mind advertising, to an extent.

        I liked seeing what new products or services are out there, or deals I may have not known about otherwise; but advertisers have taken it so far that you can’t have a reasonable amount anymore. You either block it all or get bombarded relentlessly.

        I wouldn’t even use an ad blocker if the ads weren’t disrupting the content I’m actually here to see. YouTube for example was fine when it just had banner ads around the video player; as soon as they started forcing you to watch video ads to be able to watch the actual video you came there for is when it became a problem to me.

        Gave em an inch and they took a mile. Now they get nothing.

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          Yeah I don’t mind phone website ads that are just in the middle of content, but no you’re playing video ads which fuck with my hearing aids while taking up a third of my screen in scrolling. Fuck you no

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      Lots of people. Probably the same people that play Fantasy Football.

      People will literally gamble on anything.

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      Poor people

      “Bet $5 get $250 in free bets if you lose!”

      Shit is predatory as hell and is trying to get folks addicted.

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      Gambling on sports is one of the oldest types of gambling.

      And, look. If you have the cash to spare, and gambling isnt a vice for you, it is kinda fun. Thats kinda the problem, its easy for the average person to get into it with some friends as a way to have more fun watching the game only for that to be the first domino.

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      It is an unbelievably massive, multi-billion dollar industry that is rapidly growing in the US right now. A number of states have relaxed their laws about online gambling and sports books, we are going to see a whole new generation of addicts. Every single fraternity at American universities has a point person at this stage. Many did prior they just did it on the sly.

      Caesars Sportsbook just bought the sponsorship for the NFL stadium out from Mercedes in my city. You cannot go a quarter-mile without seeing a billboard about it. YouTube is flooded with it if it detects I’m in my home state. It’s relentless now. And if it’s not Caesar’s palace bombing me with ads, it’s draft kings.

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    Gambling shouldn’t be advertised. Swedish radio advertisements is 70% gambling, and the remaining 30% is sex toys and car related services.

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      Not sure you should even be allowed to advertise legal things except in very specific cases. It’s an incredibly toxic industry that is doing a shitload of the heavy lifting of corporations destroying the world…

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    Edit his mug so it doesn’t have that Nazis name on it. Maybe have it say boot or dumbass lol