• Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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        11 months ago

        That’s the neat part, you don’t.

        Security and convenience are opposites. You have to decide if you want a local-only manager that is more secure, a sync service like syncthing that you can set up yourself, or a third-party cloud app like LastPass (which has been compromised at least once that I know of).

        Personally I just do all my email and banking on my desktop at home, and it’s actually only inconvenienced me a few times over the years.

        • Hexarei@programming.dev
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          11 months ago

          I store mine in a selfhosted Nextcloud instance accessible only via a Nebula overlay network (alternative to tailscale) and it’s both convenient and secure.

        • Paradachshund@lemmy.today
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          11 months ago

          Sticking to desktop only wouldn’t be realistic for me unfortunately. Sounds like the solutions aren’t quite there yet for an average user.

      • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        11 months ago

        I’m using KeepassXC, which has a browser integration that is quite good, and a local database. I synchronize it to my devices (using Syncthing, so it’s p2p). The database is encrypted with a pretty good password, and a key file. the key file has never and will hopefully never be transported via internet. The database is synced to a server I’ve rented as well, but never the key.

        It’s not perfect, but potential attackers would need to

        a) have access to one of my daily devices (the server won’t be enough, since they need the key file)

        b) crack my password

        Obviously, for someone dedicated this is still quite reasonable, but then again, I don’t think that’s my threat profile. The chance of getting caught up in a larger breach is a basically zero once you use your own solution, and it should be reasonably safe, if you don’t do anything stupid.

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          11 months ago

          Oof, I barely understand most of that so definitely over my head I think. It sounds like you’ve made a good system for yourself though, nice job!

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          11 months ago

          They would also need to know what you are using in the first place. Since fewer people do this it does make it a bit safer.

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            11 months ago

            Exactly. As long as you don’t have someone really determined or some three letter agency after you, it’s going to be pretty safe

      • Hexarei@programming.dev
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        11 months ago

        I store mine in a selfhosted Nextcloud instance, KeepassDX on Android supports accessing it directly. Works perfectly and even provides an autofill service for Android. Very easy and very convenient.