Additionally, what changes are necessary for you to be able to use Linux full time?
My gf and I only plays valorant. I really wanted to get into linux environment but I might give it another chance tho. I just need a good distro.
You could dual boot and use Windows for gaming.
They’re all good distros
valorant
Stop wasting your time with products made by Tencent and the chinese goverment
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Valve has contributed a lot into Proton for the Steam Deck which makes it great for Linux users.
Not all of them. Some of them don’t work due to outright refusal from developers to support anti cheat on Linux.
What does anti-cheat mean in this context? Game developers don’t want to code measures to prevent cheating on Linux so they don’t support it at all?
Multiplayer games often use a third party anti-cheat software. Some of them work on Linux, some of them don’t. What the previous commenter was referring to specifically is that some anti-cheat, like easy anti cheat has been updated to work in proton, but it requires that game developer push out an update to enable that functionality. Some do, and some (Bungie) have outright refused to do it, and even threaten bans for players that try to play on Linux.
Ugh
Some don’t even need to. EasyAntiCheat and BattlEye both have support for Linux and it’s up to the devs to enable support (or upgrade to a version that supports Linux). But in some cases, the companies just refuse to support it (Bungie with Destiny 2 for example)
Stuff like East Anti Cheat needs to have support for Linux essentially turned on. Otherwise the game won’t run even if WINE/Proton can run the game fine. I think a lot of devs don’t bother because they don’t know Linux in case OS specific support might be required, and the market was fairly small up until the Steam Deck came out.
For an example. A few weeks after the Steam Deck came out, suddenly Apex Legends and a few other games could be run on Linux without anti-cheat issues. The developers just turned on a switch and made a new build essentially.
For the longest of time is Linux users were mostly just told that people use Linux to cheat in games and that’s not really the case.
Overall though there is no real reason why anti-cheat software shouldn’t be able to work on Linux.
Yeah proton works very well, in some rare cases running the games in question better than windows. Right now the main issue is games with super invasive kernel level anticheat, eg. Valorant, Siege, Fortnite, etc. So really mostly shooters.
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Yeah those should work great.
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Did you ask yourself why the wifi driver was missing?
Quick! Deploy Xwayland before it’s too late!
This reminds me of how I discovered that building a Linux kernel is actually super easy if you just need to add a few drivers
It’s always something that doesn’t work and I can’t get working. Right now (I dual boot) it’s my 4G modern in my laptop that I don’t seem to understand how to activate the GPS receiver in. Even if I got it to work I wouldn’t know since I have no idea on how GPS is supposed to work on Ubuntu…
I’ve used both regularly for years and went back to Windows when I switched to PC gaming and it’s just so much better. Everything just works on Windows.
Linux really needs to work on improving its user experience if it wants to be a true competitor to Mac and Windows. All these little config tweaks and command line prompts you have to do to get things working on Linux just isn’t going to win a bunch of people over who are used to things being a few clicks on a wizard to get working.
Edit: it’s been years since I last tried Linux so maybe things have changed.
I would love to use Linux on my laptop but the touchpad isn’t recognised and only has windows drivers :( i have tried so much stuff but it didnt work out. My desktop is mostly for gaming so windows makes more sense.
I’m definitely a Linux novice, tried it on and off over the last decade and currently dual boot Mint on my laptop. I love Mint, it’s been the easiest version of Linux by far.
Now the bad, DaVinci Resolve Studio just does not play nice. I know this is more of a Resolve problem, but still, it doesn’t connect to my NAS efficiently. As an editor, this is a deal breaker. I hope it gets fixed in the future.
Second, it won’t even see my Bluetooth keyboard, once again, probably something to do with the hardware, but it works on everything else, even Android. I also have weird issues with my wireless Xbox controller in that the trigger buttons don’t register in games. Still trying to troubleshoot that.
I still try to use Mint as often as I can, but there always something that keeps me from switching fully.
Couldn’t have dual monitors due to Nvidia drivers not working correctly. Couldn’t play Overwatch. Deep Rock Galactic ran very badly and slowly. I’ve used Linux in the past for years but it’s just not good on a gaming laptop.
Not being able to play overwatch or any other blizzard/activision/vivendi/microsoft crap it’s a feature.
ah yes, those highy sought after delights of being restricted, linux is not bad, it’s just like a very strict parent that takes away all your gaming consoles and tells you it’s for your own good, and you know what? i’m happy to be violated everyday by the whims of such a helicopter parent, it’s a feature!!! If possible I would like daddy Linux to remove all my rights to music, movies, entertainment, and leave me only a code editor, a console and a chatroom with my employer, that way I would only work night and day to make money, it would be heaven to be trapped into a world where my only possible thoughts are of code and work.
I tried Linux mint, I really liked it but I needed Autodesk software and that don’t work on Linux 😞
I like to use parsec to play games with my friends. When I found out Linux could not host parsec, that was a bummer for me. If parsec had compatibility to host in Linux I’d switch back immediately.
Gamepass and Minecraft Bedrock mostly. Gamepass is something that I use a lot that will never work with Linux, and my friend group is split between console and PC for Minecraft so Bedrock edition works best for us. I still use SteamOS on my Steam Deck and enjoy it, but switching operating systems on my main computer just to play games is a bit excessive
There is no AMD Adrenaline software so I can’t properly use my AMD card
What were you missing? Just curious.
On the bright side in Linux we have ROCM. In windows they still haven’t released it.
I am running the RX6500XT graphics card, which if you try to use in a plug and play fashion, you’re completely out of luck when it comes to running any mildly new game out there in ultra or high settings.
However, the AMD Adrenaline software allows you to mess up with upscaling and many, many other goodies for you to fine tune performance and reach that ultra or high quality in (pretty much) all the games I usually play.
There’s no way I’m playing with low settings on Linux when AMD developed some amazing tools for people that like hacking around with their cards. It’s just a pity they still work only on Windows.
Edit: in my experience, ROCm didn’t work in my particular card. Moreover, in order to try an installation of those drivers I was forced to use distros I’m not familiar with like Ubuntu. I had to ssh to my university labs for any ML task.
Thanks for sharing. I have an RX 6800 and Ubuntu 23.04
- To be honest the only thing I’m missing from the Control Panel (a thing that I always enable in all games) is “RIS” (Radeon Image Sharpening).
- Control+Shift+O: I replaced it by running “Mangohud”
- Radeon Chill (to cap FPS a bit below my max refresh rate, example 141 fps limit): I replaced it with “Mangohud”
- FreeSync: Well I just have to enable it and run Gnome in Xorg on the logon screen… (instead of Ubuntu wayland).
- Overclock: I’m not doing in Linux because I don’t run super heavy AAA like Warzone 2.0. But I have tried CoreCtrl and seems to work. (After enabling OC flag for amd).
- Quick monitoring outside games: “Mission Center” I just installed and it’s very similar to W11 task manager in terms of monitoring.
- ROCM: it was a pain in the ass to install. I installed some package that enables opencl / rocm while leaving the linux AMDGPU driver. But then it was still not working, and spend days until I finally discovered that I had to add my user to some groups “render” and “video”, something like that. Now I’ve been using it with CUDA apps like SDXL (in python) and it’s working like a charm.
That being said. My main os is W11. If I’m playing a game where my PC is overkill, I stay on Ubuntu (example Monster Hunter Rise or Elden Ring). If I’m playing a game where I need more fps, I go to windows 11 because there is still some % drop by using Proton/Wine etc. Sometimes 20% sometimes 10%. depends. Basically, If the game gives me < 100 FPS in Windows. I stay on Windows. But I don’t prefer W11 for gaming because of the Adrenaline drivers. I just prefer it when the performance gap is considerable in games where my hardware is limited.
That’s really surprising to me. I’ve been buying AMD only for many years now specifically because they have better Linux compatibility than Nvidia.
What were you trying to do, out of curiosity?
I think it comes down to my level of proficiency with computers. I’m a photographer and an artist. However, I am above average tech literate but with absolutely no formal training compared to anyone in the computer sciences.
When I use a Mac or PC I am a power user and most people think of me as very tech inclined there. I used terminal or command prompt for commands that I have learned from Google for a specific tasks and can follow most guides and tutorials online, but I can’t come up with strings of commands creatively to fix a problem.
With Linux, there’s all these weird little problems that might be unique to me and looking them up is really difficult and when someone says “oh it’s easy. Use the terminal” as if this incredibly confusing thing that I have zero fundamental knowledge of can solve my problem. A genuinely feel illiterate when I use Linux. I can write sudo though 🤷♂️
I feel like saying “just use terminal” is like telling a kindergarten kid to just use creative writing, algebra and calculus. The fundamentals have not been taught yet, I have no idea what to do.
When I learned Mac or PC, I was shown how to use a mouse, I could read and just clicking around and opening things and reading help files let me intuitively learn on my own what to do. With Linux, this way of learning achieves nothing. Maybe I can turn wifi on and off assuming it works when I install it.
And then when an update breaks everything and I have to mess around and terminal for hours or days between doing actual work, It’s a nightmare. The only Linux thing I’ve managed to keep running for years on end is a Synology. I use it for a bit of backup things but thank goodness the OS updates and app updates all work. Nothing is broken and I barely touch the machine. It just grabs my files from the network and backs them up. You should have seen how shocked I was when I was trying to install something on docker and it took days for me to realize I just type the name of the thing I want and it grabbed it from the web and installed it automatically. I spent way too long trying to figure out how to grab the actual package files and open them like installing something via an MSI file in windows.
The Windows command line is just so far removed from linux/mac terminal. Powershell is the closest Windows has out of the box really, and it’s a poweruser tool exclusively. Not to mention that by default, Powershell comes with aliases for common commandline inputs, so users are still not learning the correct commands and syntax.
This builds an ignorance problem, as you alluded to. I’ve done a lot in android and linux, but not enough where I can hammer away at a linux terminal and do anything but cause damage.
And I don’t think this is a “fault” in linux so to speak, but it’s an issue that needs to be overcome for most users to make the switch from something where the terminal was strictly and “optional” tool for them.
WSL? Windows for GUI programs and WSL for any CLI work. All my servers are Linux but I just ssh into them. Everything runs this way all nice and happy and I never ever touch PowerShell.
I am literally a Linux system admin, I bang on a command line interface for a living.
But I don’t use Linux at home, it’s just so much work. Every single thing is complicated. Last time I really tried in earnest to switch to a full Linux setup I was somewhere in the middle of a quick and easy 24-step process to get my webcam working, compiling the drivers from a modified source - and it was just a moment that broke me. Like, I’ve been working on this for an hour and I know I can do it but this is stuff I don’t even think about with windows.
So I broke down and bought Windows 10. It’s what I was trying to avoid, being a tight ass and didn’t want to buy an new OS.
I just don’t have the patience to troubleshoot every tiny thing like a big endeavor. I can, I just don’t want to. Everything I install, every peripheral I connect, it’s always a big deal getting it to work. Heck with that, not worth the trouble.
I don’t think anything like this has really been the case for a long time. How long ago was this?
Bullshit… I honestly can’t believe half the comments here… so much conjecture, straight up bullshit, or opinions outdated by like 10+ years. Yours is another… if you are actually familiar with Linux, there is absolutely no way that you would put up with the lack of control and customization, the god-awful workflows, and knowing there are ads and telemetry data being sent from Windows.
And here I use Windows and get into a blind rage within 5 minutes at how much fucking around there is getting devices working properly, and then they just drop out for no apparent reason.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head… many of us grew up using Windows and/or Mac. Incremental changes to the OS aren’t a hindrance because of the baseline familiarity with the OS. Without OS familiarity, you’re going to feel like a fish out of water.
I’m getting better with linux, but I still daily drive on a Windows machine and I’m not sure if that will ever change.
Video games for one. Hated the UI (only thing I’ve ever hated worse was the BS Windows pulled with 8, which I skipped). The GUI experience just felt… Like a very distant after thought. Only reason I use Linux at all is on servers (homelab) because… Well the cost is spot on and once I get it working I don’t have to deal with it anymore.
My OS kept stalling/crashing on boot-up a few months into using it and I could not figure out why or how to fix it. Couldn’t log in or input any commands into the terminal to try out anything so I just gave up.
Luckily my important data was backed up and I had Windows on another drive. I thought the drive might have failed, but it hasn’t had any issues since on Windows. I’d love to return to Linux in the future but I think that experience wil haunt me for a while.
