Edit: good to see I woke the shills

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    Don’t worry, there is a slightly less senile and marginally more human out of touch old man with bad ideas here to save us. Lucky us, I know I’m inspired to be led by shitty old man A or shitty old man B.

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    Look on the positive side, if he comes back for a second term there’ll probably be death camps so you’ll be killed and won’t have to remember when he becomes president for life.

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      Put me in a Trump run death camp. Me and all my new pals will be living better than most Americans in the new order within a week. For sure would rather be there than a part of Gilead.

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        On one hand, I wonder what would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America. On the other hand, I read comments like yours and realize a lot of people are this dumb.

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          What would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America

          The same exact things that made them disillusioned 6 years ago? Their life is getting worse at an accelerated pace and have been for many decades now. The “System” does not work for them and they are tired of pretending it does.

          Despite ‘Bidenomics’ - we are poorer now than we, the working class, have ever been. Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.

          They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and most don’t even believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust. Trump is what most of the Democrats believed Bernie was - actual change.

          But it doesn’t really matter what I, or anyone else, says. You’ve already decided what you think about these people.

          https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/12/07/despite-drift-toward-authoritarianism-trump-voters-stay-loyal-why

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            Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.

            They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and a substantial number don’t believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust.

            This is fallacy. It may work attract a certain type a voter but in practice Trump bends over backwards to appease the GOP. He lines his cabinet and campaign with GOP old guard and is set out to accomplish GOP policy goals. Not once in my interactions with any Trump supporters have they hinted at doing anything that wouldn’t be typical conservative ideology. Trump is the GOPs creation. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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      At least he did Operation Warpspeed. Funny that some of his supporters turned on him for that.

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        Great skills, giving a tiny fraction of the budget to vaccine research during a global pandemic that halted the economy. I’m sure no one else would have thought of that.

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          It wasn’t the giving money, it was the fast tracking in terms of regulations. Many people in Trump’s position would not have done that and would have waited the expected 18 months instead of the 11 that it actually took. Some in the industry were concerned as it was happening. Plenty of other countries dragged their feet in the approval process more than the US did.

          Trump wasn’t single handedly responsible for the approvals. Far from it. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t know much of the details. But it still seems he was pushing for it where other people wouldn’t have. I’m not sure Biden would have. Trump likes to play fast and loose where Biden is a bit stuffier.

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      “Thank you for your hard work!”

      (But actually thanks, nurses are the best. How can we make your day better next time we’re in the hospital for something completely our own fault?)

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    Y’all Americans are some stupid bastards having president Like biden who can’t form sentences, and calling Trump a bad guy. Like we all know that Russia wouldn’t have Attacked Ukraine, Blackrock wouldn’t have gotten contract for “rebuilding” Ukraine. Having your tax payer money being spent on wars, you autistic removed.

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    Yeah if you guys put him in office again, I’m just deleting all social media including lemmy. Fuuuuuck that [most times daily, some times HOURLY] noise. I already live in a very depressing country, don’t need Americans to remind me they’re making things worse.

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    Trump and Biden both have dementia really bad. It’s been just as much of a shitshow under Biden.

    Biden is continuing the construction of Trump’s border wall. And Biden was VP when kids were being put in cages at the mexican border. Biden was VP when Obama deported more immigrants than any other president combined. Biden was in favor of segregation back when MLK was going around giving speeches.

    “I don’t want my kids growing up in a racial jungle” is something Biden is on video saying in congress…or was it during one of his campaigns? Can’t remember.

    My point is. Democrat, republican…it doesn’t matter, the same shit always happens and the only thing that changes is who’s giving praise and who’s giving criticism.

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    Please please please just go vote. And get all your friends to do it too.

    If all the trump detractors actually bother showing up to vote there will be no chance he’ll win.

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    As someone from another side of the world 🌎 I have to say that it was quite funny. Like a memexplosion. Granted, he did fuck up everything possible, thus strengthened everyone else.

    The only good thing he attempted was a TikTok ban. Should’ve been a short video ban

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    I cant believe how dysfunctional the us has become.

    You actually voted for the biggest asshole and a retard to become president. He was wildly incompetent to the surprise of nobody. The country became a laughing stock. Secrets were leaked, justice compromised (even further), he attempted a literal coup. No, lets vote for him again.

    We knew americans were dumb, but holy fuck. You need someone to protect you from yourselves because clearly your government is as caring as it is in russia. The entire population should be institutionalized.

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      Fuck off with the “all Americans” garbage you fucking idiot. I don’t even care that it’s obviously bait, anyone who ever implies I voted for that can just end themselves for all I care. Suffering through this shit then being blamed by brainless retards

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      If you think voting for literal idiots is an American thing you really haven’t been paying attention.

      Boris Johnson, Victor Orban, …

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      Nope. There’s nothing special about Americans just like there’s nothing special about any nation or large group of people. You have to be deeply ignorant of history to think otherwise. We’re all the same species and when things play out in specific ways it’s always for a similar set of reasons and circumstances.

      As Dan Carlin would say, “it’s a human thing.” You think this kind of insanity can’t happen in your country because it hasn’t yet. But you’re wrong. It can and has happened, many many times throughout history, in various forms, all over the world.

      Again, Americans aren’t special and you have to be deeply stupid and/or ignorant to think otherwise.

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      I see this take often and I see the same kinds of responses, but it’s really upsetting to see the main culprit is never mentioned.

      Yes, some of us are just hateful, but most of the people voting for Trump are exposed to and consume wayyyyy too much propaganda.

      Our media has failed us in sooooo many ways all to chase the Almighty Dollar™. We have literal entertainment networks masquerading as “News” because they’re allowed to act however they wish. We have actual “news” corporations acting like entertainment. We have Fox News and Newsmax straight up fabricating a reality for their consumers that is almost exactly the opposite of reality, and then we have CNN, MSNBC, etc, that would rather follow The Days Of Our Trumps T.V drama as opposed to actually doing hard news.

      We have 1/3 of our population living in a fantasy reality, 1/3 being made to be enraged about an orange man’s dumb tweet instead of learning about potentially good candidates to vote for, and 1/3 that’s just apathetic to it all.

      We have a gigantic media propaganda problem… We have no real press that the 1st amendment was made to protect, instead we have corporations that are taking advantage of those protections to do whatever they want to make the most money, to hell with what happens to the country…

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      Britain did brexit and a bunch of other countries elected right wing nut jobs in response to globalization, not just the us

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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      Once again pointing out that Trump never won the popular vote. Yes, we need to abolish the Electoral College. It favors the right wing unjustly and undermines the will of the people when it does not align with the popular vote.

      Lots of people voted for him, yes. I’ll make the argument that things will actually get better as the folks whose cognitive abilities are negatively impacted by a century of burning leaded gasoline start to die off. I believe it’s something like >95% of people born between 1945 and 1965 that have enough lead in their bodies to be cause for concern.Can’t remember exactly where I read this, but you can do your own Google-Fu.

      Striking those last couple sentences and just outright saying that over 90% of the entire population born between 1956 and 1976 were exposed to enough lead to raise medical concern in early childhood, according to the table below.

      I’m also back to throw in the table/material I’m referencing. If I’m going to make assertions, I should back them up.

      And the source: Half of US population exposed to adverse lead levels in early childhood

      If you want some idea of how little we cared about lead exposure, just look up the Tar Creek Superfund Site., which turned three nearby populated areas into ghost towns. It’s been reported that children would play on the enormous mounds around Picher, Oklahoma, and those things were covered in lead dust.

      And try not to live downwind of small airports.

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      You should probably be aware that the cheeto never won a majority vote in America. Our democratic system is broken to the core though, and there is basically no way to fix it which is why he still won.

      Along with that a good chunk, possibly majority of Americans is already more decent than you because we don’t use dehumanizing insults like the R word.

      Several states have even proposed banning him from the ballot for his coup attempt, including mine. Unfortunately they are being tossed out, probably by judges that he put in power.

      I think you would be surprised at how little power Americans actually have to affect change in our government. Short of dragging our knuckles and starting some uprising like his goons did, change can’t happen, and I’m not one to resort to that. I’d sooner head to Canada or Mexico.

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        Our democratic system is broken to the core though, and there is basically no way to fix it which is why he still won.

        The biggest fixable issue is the whole thing where all electoral votes in most states go to one candidate. That is a thing that is fixable. Because that is a matter of state law. The problem being of course that most states don’t want to change that, because for most states it would mean less attention from presidential candidates because they’d be playing less of a role in determining who wins (by being worth a smaller, harder to shift margin). Convince every state to switch to the way Maine and Nebraska hand out electoral votes (2 based on statewide popular vote, one for each house districts vote - states get one elector for each member of Congress this assigns electors based on who would vote for that member of Congress) and the problem is mostly fixed (everything except not being able to win the presidency by just winning California and New York by large enough margins and having an average showing elsewhere). Importantly, it’s fixed in a way you don’t have to get most of the states to agree with all at once to make happen.

        Abolishing the electoral college outright would require a constitutional amendment and those are intentionally very hard to do. An interstate compact to functionally eliminate it by getting 270 electoral votes worth of states to agree to assign their electors based on the national popular vote rather than anything at the state level is somewhat more doable but will also be legally challenged under the doctrine that the federal government is supposed to approve any interstate compact.

        Several states have even proposed banning him from the ballot for his coup attempt, including mine. Unfortunately they are being tossed out, probably by judges that he put in power.

        Any judge that gives a fuck about the law and the Constitution is going to toss those out, as they are premature. He’s a fuckwit that’s awful in all kinds of ways, but he is still due due process. Arguing 14th Amendment Section 3 applies to Trump requires arguing he has engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to an enemy. Which he probably did, but “probably” is not generally a standard we punish or restrict people over, nor do we do that without due process and the only process so far in this case is “has been investigated and formally accused”.

        This is one of the reasons that the Trump legal teams first and highest goal is to delay. If they delay long enough they can argue that the courts are being used as a form of electoral interference and possibly give Trump an election boost, if they delay even longer and he wins they can argue executive immunity. Because that’s the path with the best odds for Trump - he’s much better at manipulating crowds than at lying to judges.

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        Change would happen if 74 million Americans would grow a second brain cell and stop voting republican. If democrats were the only party winning elections, people would be more willing to participate in primaries or vote for a third party

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        It’s hilarious for all the “democracy” the US loves to “export”, it actually has a pretty terrible democracy. Wildly popular policies have no way to make their way to the government unless a rich person or corporation also lobbies for it.

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      I’m surprised Americans don’t wear padded helmets all the time, seeing as how much they ram their heads into walls.

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      It was always that bad, it was just better at hiding it in the past. Anyone who grows up poor has always known what’s up. There’s a reason the crooked rural sheriff meme exists… If it wasn’t for massive amounts of racism folks would probably recognize the same patterns in the cities.

      It’s not new, it’s just that the dysfunction got so big that it started impacting the lives of white Liberals. Fuck, go read about native history in the US. They knew what was up from the beginning.

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    Yeah, it was horrible. No war in the Ukraine, no war in Israel, houses were affordable and gas was under $2. Absolutely despicable.

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      Do you exist purely in the present with no knowledge of how past actions create future problems?

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          Are you saying Biden caused the war in Ukraine and Trump caused $2 gas, without causing $3-4 gas today?

          Do you understand that the economy has momentum that takes years to fully manifest? We don’t live in a command economy, lmao.

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              Holy shit you’re legitimately a lunatic, to be referencing fucking WE as a source.

              Either way, nothing you’ve pointed to means Trump’s terrible economic choices for short term gains and long term disaster didn’t also impact gas prices, or even the majority of the impact.

              Please, keep consuming anti-science brainrot and continue to persist in your white-supremacist echo chamber. I’m sure one day you’ll hate your way into happiness!

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                But Biden DID clamp down on domestic drilling (and canceled the Keystone pipeline). Is it anti-science to say that reducing the supply of a good will inevitably lead to rising prices?

                You can argue that he did it for a good reason (to protect the environment and increase the sales of electric vehicles, for example), but you can’t argue that he didn’t take those steps without being aware of the effect they would have on prices.

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                  Sure, he did one thing that likely did impact gas prices. That does not in any way mean that Trump’s fucking terrible economic policy isn’t a thing. It’s anti-science to deny climate change, which the WE does.

                  I never made the point that it didn’t affect gas prices, you failed to deny Trump’s impact on gas prices. This is how logic works, though I know it’s difficult for you.

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      Besides what you have already been told, there already was war in both Ukraine and Israel. Ukraine’s open military conflict with Russia has been active since at least 2014, and Israel has been in conflict with Palestine and neighbours since its foundation following WW2.

      Wesern media not covering them until it was relevant to the US national interests and them not happening are entirely different things.

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        Yes, Russia invaded Crimea during Obama’s administration. Then, magically, during four years of Trump, they didn’t do anything. As soon as Biden comes into office, they’re back at it again. Weird how that works.

        There were also no major incidents in Israel or Gaza during his term. Definitely no full scale invasion. Oh, but those mean tweets!

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          Fuck you. My best friend was killed in Donbass in 2017 during the Crimea invasion. He was fighting for Ukraine against Russians invaders so he could liberate his family and homeland. You not knowing about an ongoing war and using this as some sort of gotcha to prop up a politician that hates you is fucking insulting. So fuck you. Slava Ukraini, Heroiam Slava.

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            Sorry about your friend, but I’m pretty sure a lot more Ukrainians died since Biden came into office than during Trump’s term.

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      I remember when Biden invaded Ukraine and told Israel to attack Gaza. That was after he pulled the ‘housing price’ and ‘gas price’ levers in the White House, of course.

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        Biden’s failings are more in what he allowed to happen through inaction rather than what he directly caused.

        “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” — Hanlon’s Razor

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          Hmm… which would I rather have, someone passive that doesn’t directly cause problems or an unapologetic fascist who uses Hitler-style language in his speeches and promises to open concentration camps?

          But I’m sure you’re white, heterosexual, Christian and male, so you’ll be fine.

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            Sounds like you have no problem with using racist language, as long as it isn’t directed towards you. Hypocritical much?

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    Never had a president actually affect my day to day life before. It was wild, No thanks to that ever again

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      I’m wracking my brain and heart trying to see what kind of work will manifest this “not again.” Voting blue seems very amiss.

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          It’s too bad that not giving weapons to a genocidal government is not on one of those lists.

          I will never vote for anyone not currently involved in calling for a cease fire ever again.

          Not that it matters though, support for Biden has fallen to single digits among Muslims in the swing States, whose numbers are required to win those swing States.

          If stopping Trump was so important, why did Bidden through it all away to support a genocide?

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            How old are you?

            There’s literally never been a good position on the fucking decades long Israel conflict that will please people. Most people smart and/or old enough know to stay the fuck out of it. It’s a meme, for fuck’s sake. There was a Rick and Morty episode about it several years ago, that’s how much of a meme it is now.

            If you’re judging Biden by that, you’re obviously too young to remember the last time this volcano of shit erupted. Maybe look at other issues that impact American’s lives that don’t have to do with inane fantasies about Armageddon.

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              I’m forty fucking five. I want us to stay out of it. It’s our tax dollars that are paying for the weapons being used. This conflict exists BECAUSE we don’t stay out of it. If we did, Israel would have had to actually negotiate in good faith decades ago. You are directly paying to enact a genocide, because our current president is unwilling to tell Israel to knock it the fuck off.

              Reagan stopped Israel bombing in twenty minutes with a single phone call. (Not that Reagan is a good person, just that the capability exists for Biden, he just chooses not to use it.)

              I do remember Operation Cast Lead. I’m willing to bet that you didn’t even know the name of the last time it erupted. You’re so ignorant that you view actual knowledge and lived experience as ignorance, because you’re so ignorant you don’t know how ignorant you are.

              Finally, this is not inane you fucking moron, you have no knowledge of foreign policy, and this very easily could erupt into a wider regional war that turns into WW3.

              P.S. It doesn’t matter what I think you fucking blood thirsty child murder justifying fuck, What matters is that a large enough percentage of voters in the mid-west swing states to be required for a Democratic win are Muslim. They correctly see Biden’s actions as enabling a genocide against a people they identify with. As a result, their support has dropped down to single digit support.

              Every other normally Democratic voter that wasn’t Muslim could choose to vote for Biden, and he would still lose due to actions that would have been possible for someone as idiotic as yourself to predict. The Biden administration has done it to themselves.

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              You literally didn’t read a goddamn thing I said.

              It doesn’t matter who I vote for.

              Arab-Americans form a large population in the mid-west swing states. This is a known fact.

              They are a requisite component for the coalition that allows the Democratic party to win presidential elections in the mid-west swing states. This is also a known fact.

              It requires very little intuition to know that Arab-Americans will react negatively to a person who approves of and enables the genocide of a civilian population group that they identify with.

              That is what happened. Support has dropped for Biden among Arab-Americans in the swing states to a single digit.

              Every other typically Democratic voting demographic group could vote the same as they normally do, and Biden would lose due to loss of a key member of the swing state coalition.

              Biden took that action, knowing it would likely blow up his Arab-American support so that he could give weapons and support to a group that has so far killed at least 5000 children. If you sort them in order of age, it takes six pages to get to a child older than 0. That was what he was willing to destroy his chances of getting re-elected for.

              I’m not arguing that anyone should vote, or not vote for Biden. I’m saying that a win is now impossible due to his administrations actions regardless of what I, individually, do. If you want to be angry about Trump becoming a fucking dictator, be mad at the person who made it a certainty so he could help kill 5000 children.

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              Trump would never kill the Jews. Not because he cares about them at all (in fact, if it were profitable for him, he absolutely would), but his biggest supporters are evangelicals who need the Jews to be in control of the region in order to bring on their Armageddon.

              I am not kidding:

              Prophetic Anticipation Builds: Unblemished Red Heifers for Temple Ceremony Soon Come of Age

              There are tons of articles like that from evangelical groups. They legitimately think this is the end times, and they’re happy to see all of us burn for it. They publicly say climate change isn’t real, but privately they say it’s ordained and a sign of the apocalypse. They’re against people doing anything about it, and there are Dominionists in Congress and the Supreme Court. They’re going to kill us all if they can.

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            Unfortunately in our current election system, voting for the lesser evil is what we have to do.

            Vote with your heart in the primaries, vote strategically in the end. So is the curse of our first past the post voting system.

            And do what you can to help get the people who want to do positive change in your local elections into office. The only path to ranked choice voting is getting enough support in the states, there’s very little chance we’ll get it on the national stage without it becoming a reality on the state level.

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          Have you tried taking a loan out on anything lately? Minimum 8% interest rate for someone with the best credit score imaginable. I know doctors and engineers who refuse to buy a house right now because we had an incompetent senior citizen decide to hand out free money several times when the country was shut down and burn money on pointless foreign conflicts that we have absolutely no business being in. This country was prospering when Trump was in office and it will when he’s reelected next year.

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              I did, and it’s just a list of him spending exorbitant amounts of tax payer money on the most random infrastructure projects. Bidens like the grandparent who goes out of their way to spoil their grandkids, there’s nothing wrong with it up to a certain limit, but if we just let them be in charge of our finances we’re all screwed. A Republican presidency is necessary to balance out the overspending of a liberal socialist president.

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                You obviously didn’t, if you’re still spouting trump’s talking points.

                Or you actively want fascism, since he’s dropped the mask, finally. So which is it – are you being wilfully ignorant, or ready to be an open fascist? He’s making his stance perfectly clear. We can all see it now.

                If you’re still willing to defend that… I want to say I pity you, but I can’t. Fascism will lose, hard this time. We’re onto it. We see it for what it is.

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                  I’m simply a centrist constitutionalist, which is the farthest thing from a fascist.

                  I’m not going to vote for a president that consistently attacks my right to bear arms with a new law anytime a mass shooting pops off.

                  And I’m not willing to vote for a president that keeps on funding Israels genocide on Palestinians. Trump has already said he wouldn’t get involved in any foreign conflicts which is much more than Biden has done thus far.

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          Heh. And you’re not deplorable! What a lovely assumption, but if someone had say, GAD, surely this is the reply to make them vote for the covertly fascist over the overtly fascist party. If someone had mpd, bpd, surely this is the answer to turn away the wrath and violence of j6ers.

          I’m sorry you’re so devoid of imagination, you can’t imagine establishment D with zero personality won’t lose to the cult of evil personality, not imagine a viable solution.

          I wish you peace and healing.

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    He’s already said he’s basically going to be 10 times worse if he gets reelected. I’m not sure why the people who support him think that’s a good thing. For a party that claims to love “freedom” they sure seem desperate to elect a fascist dictator

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      You’d think after he didn’t pardon the people in person that stormed the Capitol they’d smarten up. If that didn’t open their eyes, nothing will.

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          He believes they are supposed to go to jail for him to prove their loyalty. He really thinks he’s a mob boss or something

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          He didn’t want the folks who would pay him to suddenly believe they didn’t have to pay, or be ticked off that they were having to pay (remember, rich folks can get snippy). I can’t remember the number that was floated, but it wasn’t cheap.

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      Fascism is a president trying to take away constitutional rights like genocide Joe is with the second amendment and limiting gun rights. Trump has already said he won’t get involved in any foreign conflicts, which is far better than funding Israels genocide.

      Just ask yourself who you’re going to have more rights under Trump or Biden, then you’ll see who the fascist dictator is.

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        It’s Trump. He’s essentially already said he wants to be a dictator. He’s started calling his opponents “vermin”, he’s stated on the record that he’s going to deploy the army on day 1 of his reelection to suppress any dissenters.

        It’s not subtle

        He’s going to destroy America so he can keep being the center of attention and make it illegal to disagree with him

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          There’s a certain document called the constitution that gives Americans the right to assemble and to free speech that not even the president can fuck with.

          Are you more scared of a fascist president who’s intent on limiting your natural rights or trump because he said a scary word like vermin.

          You’re honestly following too much left wing media, a more balanced approach to how you consume news will open your eyes up to what factors you need to consider before voting next year.

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            Wait… so the Constitution will stop Trump from enacting his fascist agenda but it won’t stop Biden from taking away The Precious?

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            following too much left wing media

            I’m referring to things that Donald Trump has actually said openly on camera. It’s literally all he talks about. It has nothing to do with who’s reporting it, these are the actual words Trump has said.

            I’m not particularly a leftist, I consider myself to be a centrist. I don’t particularly love Joe Biden. That doesn’t mean I’m going to go out and vote for a cartoon super villain though

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        I will have more rights under Biden. There’s more to rights than guns. Like as a gay man if I lose my right to exist, that’s a bit harsher than my right to own something.

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        Trivia question: Which politician has proposed “suspending the constitution” in recent years?

        Hint: It’s the same politician the proposed “taking guns first, asking questions later”.

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      There are several different groups supporting him for different reasons. The biggest, I’d argue, is the slightly right very populist. They’re not into fascism per se, they just want a wrecking ball like Trump to go in and break apart the elite institutions they blame for all the problems and see no other way of influencing. There certainly are supporters who are encroaching on fascism territory. Then there’s long time Republicans who have flipped on a bunch of issues to try to get support from these people Trump activated.