I have most of the Fediverse-based account and seem to have just gravitated towards Lemmy over Kbin as found it very confusing, What makes you prefer Kbin over Lemmy or any other Fediverse instances?
Preferred the stock UI of Kbin, then I found out about userstyles and am in love with them. I’m a big fan of the microblogging, as it’s a place for posts that don’t warrant a full thread, but can still spark discussion. The politics of the Lemmy devs disgust me, so I’d rather not use a site using their software. Public upvotes/downvotes are great IMO, lets things be more transparent (like for instance I upvote all my posts, without it being public no one would know), plus it helps catch fake votes.
I also just find the name Kbin to be more catchy than Lemmy. Like GabeN, or k than.
Userstyles?
I mean, share?
They don’t work with Lemmy, but they’ve made Kbin very much like old Reddit.
Use these with Stylus
https://userstyles.world/style/10581/pretty-floating-subs
https://userstyles.world/style/10851/the-narwhal-kbins-at-dawn
https://userstyles.world/style/10288/kbin-itUse these with Tampermonkey (Greasemonkey for FireFox)
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/469121-floating-subs-list
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/470285-kbin-kibby-avatars
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468898-kbin-redirect-dev
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/469597-kbin-usability-pack
https://github.com/aclist/kbin-kes/raw/main/kes.user.jsOoh thanks!
Thank you kind stranger 😁
Thank you, this really has opened up my mind.
I’ve seen “kbin is confusing” a few times, and frankly can’t imagine any aspect of it that is confusing at all.
Neither. One of the reasons I’m here is it’s less confusing.
I didn’t stick with Lemmy long enough to make this point of comparison, but just as someone who never got into Twitter in the first place, the microblogging section is definitely taking some time to wrap my head around. That said, I really like that it’s there and I think it’s a major boon over lemmy. I hope community owners and moderators will get more microblogging integration options for magazines as Kbin advances.
I’m currently trying both out, still deciding…
Same here, so far Lemmy seems to be the better option for me.
For what’s it worth, I’m replying to you from Lemmy. It’s all federated so you can easily respond to Kbin posts from the Memmy app for Lemmy
I’m kind of agreeing with you…but nothing bad against kbin though.
As I move between the two options, I think I kind of prefer the “simplicity” of the Lemmy interface as well. I wonder if I should throw my hat in the ring and create a server myself?
Extra features like (apologies for the run-on sentence) being able to see upvotes and downvotes on threads and comments like lemmy admins can, better integration with mastodon, every community has both a ‘reddit-like’ section like Lemmy/Reddit, and a ‘twitter-like’ section which as I mentioned integrates with mastodon via hashtags, we can block users, communities, domains and (soon) instances, we have a wide variety of user-style scripts via Tampermonkey to customize the UI (the base UI is also, subjectively, better).
Given its all federated, you also don’t lose anything by using kbin since you have access to lemmy too. Plus the dev is just the nicest, hard working son of a bitch lol.
Only drawback is we dont have an API yet, so for mobile you’re stuck with the mobile site, but the mobile site is also really good so eh. Once the API is up tho there’s a few apps which have already said they’ll support kbin as well, so that’s a matter of time.
@GeekFTW Seems like the API is close … https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/p/903221/kbin-s-API-is-coming-soon-I-ve-finished-up-all-of
Ooooh perfect!
Thank you for breaking it down for me, seems like it’s really up to if someone wants better control over things than Lemmy currently does.
Do you recall which mobile apps were going to support kbin?
If my (usually shite) memory serves, I believe I Artemis, Boost, and Sync, but I may be wrong.
Started with kbin today. After the first few interactions , it seems to get much better.
Edit: had to scroll down fully to type this comment. Is it just me or is it like this ?
Iirc that’s intentional so you are more likely to read what others have written before starting your own comment chain. That might just be Tildes though, there that’s explicitly said to be the reason why the commenting box is at the bottom.
Came for the UI. Stayed for the granular settings (including turning federation on and off) and the content just seemed higher quality (though that is very subjective)
Which UI?
ETA: asking since people will see this across the fediverse, and may not realize where you posted this
@numbscroll Good point. Kbin.
Just the mobile website works pretty well by itself. I’m using the Artemis beta now and I like it a lot too.
I can’t wait for Artemis!
Hi from Artemis 🫡
It’s pretty great.
🥹
Fair enough, I seem to find it confusing as of the moment but I’ll give it a proper go to see if I prefer it in the end.
How is it confusing? I’ve tried both and neither were hard to use, I purely picked Kbin for aesthetics.
For me it’s more straight forward than Lemmy, possibly because of the UI. I still can’t find content I want, but overall it’s easier than lemmy and I can’t really put my finger on why. It’s interesting to me that you have the opposite impression!
I guess my thoughts are I can deal with the simpler UI, It doesn’t have anything on the screen without a specific use. I guess Kbin would be the same just has so much more on the screen than Lemmy does what I guess would overwhelm me.
I’d say the best way to look at it is if you’re enjoying your experience over on Lemmy, then there’s absolutely nothing wrong with sticking with it! c: This is one of the major upsides to federation, since different places can appeal to different wants or needs from their users!
That said, if you are curious about Kbin and wanna learn more about it, don’t be afraid to! The extra toggles or buttons can certainly be intimidating at first when you aren’t sure what they do. But in my opinion, one of the biggest draws for a website is having options! There’s a whole lot of good in a site that lets you make your experience more your own than simply being one-size-fits-all, and Kbin certainly offers that in a few different ways! I can’t speak for Lemmy on that front, but maybe they have similar options as well.
Apologies for the rather lengthy reply, but if you’re still curious about Kbin and some of its functionality, there is this post https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/52838/A-starting-guide-to-kbin-social-support-thread-for-new-users over on the KbinMeta magazine. It is a smidgen dated though since there have been some updates since, so if you still have questions or are still confused by something on here, don’t be afraid to ask! People are very helpful on here c:
Thank you, you’ve been so useful and don’t worry about the long message it’s what these are for.
I don’t really understand the difference, I think it’s a shame that a Reddit replacement gets split into two camps in the Fediverse. At the very least, they should use the exact same data at the back end and interact with each other seamlessly. In either case, this is what you get in an open protocol. Maybe one or the other will win out in the long run.
- Tried joining a Lemmy instance but loading spinner stay stuck , didn’t successfully create account
- Not much of a redditor , glad you’re not limited to redditlike functions . Only downside’s microblog functionality very basic compared to single purpose platforms (Mastodon|(.*)key) , but don’t want hassle of maintaining multiple fediverse accounts
One thing that I like about kbin is that it’s not trying to be “x, but federated” like lemmy or mastodon for example. It’s more exiting to try to make something new! I think it’s very apparent how some parts of lemmy are full of redditisms on purpose which I disslike.
That said, I do have a lemmy account that I use for posting about other stuff. There are a tons of website sprouting up as contenders for a space in the new internet landscape and I’m having a lot of fun trying them out without really binding myself to one too tightly
For me it was the UI. Replies to comments on Lemmy are offset by, like, a single pixel. They’re more obvious here. Yup, that was the biggest thing for me.
I suspect I will eventually go to just one account. If this “Memmy” app essentially connects the two, that could be a good solution. Do you use your same account for both? I created separate. Here I am on Lemmy
https://sh.itjust.works/u/JK_MooneyMost people use one account for both!
I feel like all the reddit neckbeards went to Lemmy. Better vibe over here plus branding + UI.
Yeah looking to see if I can bring the content I’ve used on here across or if I need to 100% restart from scratch again. I do luckily already have a Kbin account that I’ve been messing around with but don’t want to lose my Communities / Magazines.
@SamXavia I have accounts on lemmy, kbin and Mastodon.social, and I’ve pretty much settled on the masto. Maybe because I never was a twitter user, it is a slightly novel format for me. Anyway, there are plenty of humans there, so lots to share and engage with…
It integrates better with Mastodon, I can post to hashtags and see hashtags from here.
Federated authentication. UI on mobile was good enough.