• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    If you think journalists aren’t living the same way, you’re out of your mind. They need to be able to take care of themselves, too, to do their jobs.

    But cool, I guess the answer is fuck all journalism then, because you can’t be fucked to care about how it’s funded. You’re expecting it to just be handed to you by people who do it for the love of it, and then wonder why that doesn’t happen, when you yourself understand exactly why it can’t and you just explained it.

    What a fucking shitty crank. You don’t get what you want, so you want to tear down the whole thing, which is conveniently what you’ve accused me of. Do a lot of projection like this?

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      Because you’re obviously struggling, what I’m saying that objective & effective journalism is vital to informed decision-making in a democracy, and we’re not getting it because journalism in the US is run as a business¸ which imo will always end with media focusing exclusively on whatever makes them the most money, irrespective of the truth. If we want real journalism we need to view it, and fund it, as a public service. The problem is systemic, and our news media will continue to fail us until the system is rectified.

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        I don’t disagree, but you’re skipping a lot of steps of how we fucking get there, man. You’re not going to start the revolution tomorrow by being an asshole on the internet. You’ll just get a lot of people quoting Lebowski at you: “You’re not wrong, Walter, you’re just an asshole.”

        Sorry I’m busy living in the world as it currently exists instead of expending all my energy on lofty ideas that sadly most Americans are too toothlessly uneducated in understanding, yet supporting. I’d rather work on building coalitions, talking about how we can change things, and working within the system as it exists at the moment because we don’t have a lot of other choices.

        But sure, be angry that you can’t magically snap your fingers to make it better overnight, that really helps us get there.

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          Hey man, call me an asshole if it makes you feel better, I’m just pointing out the problems as I see them, and the giant gaping holes in your suggestions. Widespread political corruption isn’t something we can safely ignore. The public can’t crowdfund journalism in a sustainable way, unless they get a substantial increase in disposable wealth.

          That’s the world as it currently exists.

          One Koch donation is worth more than the locals can ever give to local journalism, and most local outlets are just Sinclair Broadcast Group in a rubber mask anyway. But sure, be angry that you can’t fix it by parroting a facile solution, that really helps us get there.

          In response to your edit:
          You’re so close to getting it omg. Keep trying. It’s almost like this is a problem that’s been considered before, and had a solution. How could we ensure a public service is publicly funded? Should our poorest even be selling their plasma to pay taxes? That almost sounds like a whole other problem… If only we had a way to regulate these things. But of course, we can only consider solutions within a capitalist model, cuz 'merica, so obviously there’s no solution.

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            One Koch donation is worth more than the locals can ever give to local journalism, and most local outlets are just Sinclair Broadcast Group in a rubber mask anyway.

            So once again, short of total revolution, what’s your actual plan to get us there? You’ve made it clear the public is too poor to support publicly funded news, so what is your suggestion to make news publicly funded short of taxation that would increase the tax bill of the public that is too poor to afford it?

            Seriously if you can’t bring an actual answer, then fuck off already. I know my answer isn’t good, but fuck me, it’s better than bitching and doing nothing.

            Also, let’s not pretend that the fucking BBC is some paragon of virtue, publicly funded news can be conservative bullshit too.

            EDIT: In response to your edit: You realize the reason I called you an asshole is because people who want things to get better share information instead of acting like a smug prick because others don’t already know. Like, way to channel Angelica from fucking Rugrats in the 90’s: “If you have to ask, you’ll never know!” Saying shit like “since you’re struggling” to me when at no point before that had you mentioned “public funding” is literally the definition of being a smug asshole, chucklefuck. You know what actually helps? Educating other people, not shitting on them because they’re not fucking enlightened like you. No wonder you’re obviously fucking miserable.

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            In response to your edit: You realize the reason I called you an asshole is because people who want things to get better share information instead of acting like a smug prick because others don’t already know.

            Like, way to channel Angelica from fucking Rugrats in the 90’s: “If you have to ask, you’ll never know!”

            Saying shit like “since you’re struggling” to me when at no point before that had you mentioned “public funding” is literally the definition of being a smug asshole, chucklefuck. Sorry I can’t read your fucking mind because you want to dance around the fucking answer instead of just saying it.

            You know what actually helps? Educating other people, not shitting on them because they’re not fucking already “enlightened” like you. “Keep trying” said no good teacher ever instead of helping the student understand the concept.

            No wonder you’re obviously fucking miserable.

            You still refused to answer the question, because you’re more concerned with lording your knowledge over others instead of sharing it. Kind of antithetical to your stated socialist ideals, isn’t it? Hoarding information is what capitalists do you fucking idiot.

            So keep enjoying yourself by denying others information and acting like a smug prick about it, you’d fit in just fine with the Koch’s. Which, once again, is why I called you an asshole, asshole.