Do fat criminals lose weight?
Do skinny criminals gain weight?
The meals are actually planned out in quite a lot of detail. When they put out the new food guide in Canada they said it was the basis for things like prison meals, food for soldiers, etc.
That depends a lot on the exact prison. Because many prisons don’t follow guidelines and provide less food than they are supposed to.
In theory, inmates are supposed to get between 2,400-2,700 calories a day. The actual amount might be closer to 2,000 or even below that. For a small person that might be enough to sustain themselves but bigger people will lose weight.
Unless a prisoner has money. Then they can use the commissary store to buy additional food and eat as much as they can afford.
And that’s for the entire western world. Some countries are better at enforcing guidelines than others but every country has a few prisons that are run terrible.
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Couldn’t count calories, only done a couple of days in county, but the dudes in there were quite healthy.
Few days eating plain food, nothing tasty or fattening or salty, I dropped 5lbs. off my gut. Wasn’t fat (overall) to begin with but dropped that belly fast.
Guys that had been in for a minute? Pasty white, but great skin, active and healthy looking. And no, there was nowhere to work out in the pod. Pushups and sit-ups if you like.
I attribute the nice skin to the cold. Works on my complexion, and I’ve read many others saying the same. OTOH, nothing much to do for fun, but the showers are hot. Might as well.
Quite an education. Taking away all but the base needs really seemed to fit those men up. No one fat, no one malnourished. No smokes, drugs, alcohol, or the aforementioned foods.
Plenty of hell in other ways, but we’re talking about food.
I don’t want to read too much into this, but do you need an alibi?
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I’ll take that as a no, carry on.
edit: lol, your edited reply was funnier than the first one, but I admire that you still completely missed the joke, along with the people who upvoted that.
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No worries, I would have expected something like “if anyone asks I was washing my hair last night” but your reply was more amusing.
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Yeah, not getting it and low key going off about it was not expected and arguably more entertaining.
I don’t know, but by calling inmates criminals, you are 1. Assuming guilt, and 2. Implying that crime is their identity, which is pretty short-sighted and dismissive.
Call them inmates.
How does the word “criminal” imply that crime is their identity?
Everyone had told a lie at one time or other in their life. Are you a liar or a person who has told lies? There is your answer.
Yes they are.
According to Wiktionary, a liar is a person who frequently lies, whereas a criminal is someone who is guilty of a crime (possibly just a single one). So this is a false equivalence.
It doesn’t unless they identify as a criminal and change their pronouns.
But inmates are by definition criminals? They have been judged guilty and sentenced to time in prison.
There are people who are awaiting trail who are in prison. These people are have not been convicted of committing a crime, and are therefor not criminals.
…but honestly, most of the people awaiting trial have actually been convicted of other crimes in the past, so they could still be called criminals.
If they’re awaiting trial, they are in jail, not prison.
*trial
A criminal is someone who has committed a crime. Using criminal as a blanket term to refer to all inmates assumes that 100% of them are guilty, which is demonstrably false.
This is a bit of chicken and egg, but if you’ve committed a crime, you are a criminal. If you’ve been accused of a crime, you are not a criminal, until you are proven to be guilty.
If youve been convicted, you’ve been found guilty. If you’ve been found guilty, that means you’ve committed a crime, and are a criminal.
In order to be an inmate (barring those await trials in jails) you must be a criminal.
Your concern, I think, is stemmed from the unfortunate stigma that follows criminals long after their rehabilitation/incarceration, which is a valid stance. However, if someone is currently in a prison, as an inmate, they must be a criminal in the eyes of the law. That doesn’t mean they are criminals from then until the end of time, however.
In order to be an inmate (barring those await trials in jails) you must be a criminal.
I like how you impose a generalization and include its counterexample. That’s like saying “all left handers are dumb except the smart ones”.
If you’ve been found guilty, that means you’ve committed a crime, and are a criminal
This is a jump in reasoning, because you are declaring the justice system to be perfect. Wrongful convictions occur. Have you never heard of people being released after decades of incarceration, after it was determined they were innocent?
Your logic train derailed at “if you were found guilty, you commited the crime” have you not watched how many people they release with DNA evidence overturn or witness recanting, and say Oops, guess it wasn’t you.
If you were found guilty by the courts, then yes in the eyes of the courts you have a committed the crime. If and when there are appeals, new evidence, or overturned verdicts, then that evaluation would change.
The whole point ends up being that criminal as a word has a specific definition, and those who have been convicted of crimes fit that definition.
No
You must be trolling right?
You think the justice system is perfect?
Me asking OP to respect the demonstrable reality of some inmates being wrongfully incarcerated does not make me a troll.
I mean…technicallyyyyyyy they initially asked about prisoners, then asked if fat criminals lose weight; which means they’re asking about all prisoners, everywhere, around the world, and also all fat criminals as well
(Yes I’m being pedantic, and yes, the OP was worded clumsily, and yes you are correct , but but BUT I’m correct as well and that doesn’t make me less of an ass)
I think they shoot for 1800kcal per day but from my experience in county jail that’s bullshit. More like 1600
1600? Yikes. That’s like bare minimal survival. I bet the big hefty people that go in there feel quite a bit of suffering until their bodies get used to so little food.
You can buy peanut butter and ramen and such from commissary.
At a 600% markup, with your .35 per hour wages.
Yikes, a 600% markup would mean that these 16-ounce peanut butter jars would cost almost $20 each 😳
are you serious? Or are you exaggerating a little?
600% is definitely hyperbole on my part. I don’t know the exact prices, but they are significantly marked up. The hourly rate is pretty accurate though.
Prison, in most countries, is intended to be vengeance. A bit of suffering is the point, unfortunately.
I’m not sure but I think that it’s also to keep the prisoners slightly malnourished so they’re easier to control.
yeah that’s rough. Even as a non-prisoner, if I eat so few calories, I can’t think clearly and I can’t sleep at night.
