I don’t really like Windows but it’s for my gaming PC. My laptop does run linux. I don’t know much of anything about 11 and whether it’s better or not.
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No <-- The actual post Honestly have experienced quite a bit issues with Windows rather than Windows 10, not to mention the design wise they went with Windows 11… its terrible not to mention several issues that has happened (couple of them not fixed as of yet)
Install Linux instead lmao
It’s honestly just ten but better. Easier on your system, less superfluous animations, and it’s organized a bit better. Most windows 10 apps are compatible out of the box as well.
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On a super recent Intel CPU with BIG.little architecture, I believe 11 has better scheduling. One day when games start to make use for it, 11 has DirectStorage and I believe 10 doesn’t?
If you have an ultrawide display, you might appreciate the start button in the middle.
And that’s about all the pros of Windows 11. Now for the cons: They’ve greatly dumbed down the context menu, so now you have to click the “more options” or whatever button nearly every time. Also it’s possible that they fixed it a already but when I tried 11 near launch, the context menu took about 2 seconds to appear. Zen 2 CPU, 32 GB of decent DDR4 and an NVMe boot drive so it should be snappy And it’s Windows. I right click on EVERYTHING because I’m not used to the weird-ass non-unix console. Gimme right click -> 7-zip -> extract to (subfolder), not right click -> wait 2 seconds -> show more options -> 7-zip -> extract to (subfolder)
But overall, Windows 11 isn’t all that different. There are some UI changes, but it’s surviveable.
I too am in the “Only stuck on Windows for gaming” crowd. My previous jaunt going full Linux was by far the most successful, but Nvidia’s poor Linux support and performance once again led me back to the Microsoft world on Desktop.
re: context menu
Don’t trust me here, or any post giving commands like this. You can search for steps to revert the context menu to pre-simplified versions. You can do the same as this command manually using regedit and finding the correct keys/etc… After this, reboot and you have your menu back to a usable state.
reg.exe add "HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /f /veThere is a registry entry that reverts 11 to the old context menu behavior.
OP, thanks for being the sacrificial lamb here. Now I know never to ask a question about Windows if I don’t want to hear irrelevant opinions from Linux snobs. Sorry you didn’t get a lot of real answers.
Lemmy as a platform is built on FOSS. There are going to be Linux/FOSS advocates all over here.
I say this as primarily a windows admin who recently started diving into Linux.
The “real answer” is that Windows 10 is supported until October 2024. You have until then to make your decision or switch to an alternative because after that, W10 won’t be getting more updates and you risk running an unsecure system at that point.
There’s a difference between advocating for Linux in its own threads or where especially relevant (no problem!) and every Windows question getting answered with just “use Linux instead!” (aggravating and unhelpful).
I’ve certainly seen worse than this thread in this regard, however.
Honestly, I completely agree with the sentiment, although in this particular case OP just asked “upgrade to 11 or Linux?” While indicating that they already have some degree of comfort with Linux after having it on a laptop, so the Linux advocates in this thread have a bit of a leg to stand on in this case.
However: when there are questions like “how do I do X in Y software on Z operating system” it’s completely valid to be frustrated with the evangelists who come out of the woodwork and say “just use this other OS” because it completely misses the point of the question.
And that goes for Windows, Mac, and Linux evangelists.
Its not a linux issue. If you go into linux threads there’s plenty of people advocating for windows.
Even through the question is asking about windows 10 vs 11 it still makes sense to suggest alternatives.
I keep hoping that new sites will be better about this. And while I understand the reasons why this happens it still saddens me that it still does.
At the moment no, is trash, the taskbar is broken and unusable.
In September looks like they’re adding back basic functionality to the taskbar so it can be considered an upgrade
I don’t know how it took so much time to fix that taskbar… Incompetence? Everyone with more than 1 year of experience left the team?
What’s broken and unusable about the taskbar? I’ve had w11 installed since the beta days, and other than aligning it back to the left (my webcam blocks the bottom center of my screen), I haven’t had any issues with it
That’s designed to be a bad clone of the MacOS dock, instead of the Windows bar. So, fancy animations but no drag & drop at launch (fixed one year later because drag & drop is hard to program, even windows me could do it) and no list of opened windows to switch faster
Last time I used 11 it had a few things which are deal breakers for me.
- All windows of same application are grouped. In 10, you can have it group them never or only when task bar is full. On 11 you have no option. It takes an extra click every time you want to cycle to a specific window.
- Seconds on the clock are gone. I use that on 10 occasionally and want it back.
- Context menu in explorer was changed and is way more frustrating to use. My biggest gripe is the keyboard shortcuts were changed for no reason.
- The ribbon menu is going away for nested menu system. Ribbon is objectively better for repeating multiple commands.
- Gaming performance is worse, specifically VR.
- UI/UX changes, some are good, some are bad. It’s not a polished OS with inconsistencies everywhere. In 10 at least they tried to make each level of the UI consistent with itself. 11 is just a hodgepodge of useless shit.
10 definitely had it’s hodge podge ui elements. Usually with a “fresh” UI, and a classic one. This is especially noticeable with settings
As long as you don’t mind the task bar being glued to the bottom of your screen, I think Windows 11 is a net improvement over 10. The new features in WSL are particularly cool.
I like windows 11 better than 10. The UI is better (besides the basic start menu all apps thing) but, I’m just about done with microsoft I think… For the same reason I left reddit, I don’t want to be a commodity. With all the telemetry that is undoubtedly being sent from my windows OS (even when disabling everything I can) it makes me uncomfortable (even with my pihole on my network)… Getting more and more comfortable with linux as a daily driver. For years, linux was always just those work computers I’ve dealt with but the more I want to get away from being a product. The more I realize linux is what I need.
Gaming on Linux has gotten much better in the recent years. Honestly with the exception of games that use anit-cheat software, most games play just fine on Linux systems. I’ve abandoned windows, but my PC at work has windows 11 on it. I feels snappier and definitely looks better than windows 10. I’d say upgrade, but that’s going to be your preference (I’d go Linux unless you play mostly fps or competitive games)
imo if you have a compatible machine (& prefer the taskbar at the bottom of the screen), then yes. it’s essentially just 10 with some kernel/core updates & a new ui that’s much better.
Also more ads and bloatware.
prefer the taskbar at the bottom of the screen
This is 90% of the reason i haven’t upgraded to 11 yet. I want my taskbar vertically on the left damnit!
You know what, I am going to let you figure that one out for yourself. A lot of us already pointed out Linux, but if you’re asking that question, then you’re probably reaching the point that you are considering the switch already. Everyone has their own breaking point with Windows, Microsoft will NEVER reduce their ads/telemetries on Windows going forward, it only going to get worse.
Good luck! And we’ll see you on Linux in a few years.
It’s such a subjective question. As a result, the answers you get will confuse you even more. It really depends on what type of user you are, and what software and hardware you have. Most basic users will notice some graphical changes, but not much else. I am not one of these people and use my desktop for everything from gaming, writing, music, and drawing. I am perfectly happy with 11 over 10. Yes, it has little annoyances, but then every version of Windows does. Those saying version X was great, are simply wearing those rose-tinted glasses. The perfect operating system does not exist, simply because us users are such a varied bunch. So catering to us all at once will create friction and issues.
The simple answer is, if you’re going to stick with Windows rather than move to Linux, then upgrade. You will have to do it at some point. So long as you don’t do it within the first six months of the new version of Windows being released. Then you will be fine. The later you leave it, the less time you have to become comfortable with it before you ask this question again about the next upgraded version of Windows.
I don’t know. Windows 7 was widely considered to be the nadir.
I’ve been running 11 since the first leak and haven’t looked back. I actually really dislike using 10 in comparison.
