That still seems low.
Consider how out-of-touch vast swathes of Americans are on foreign affairs, or even on domestic affairs, and it’s pretty reasonable IMO. I suspect a major chunk of the people answering this don’t even know that anything significant has changed in the past few months and this “genocide/not-genocide” answer is just based on their vague general knowledge of the usual Israel/Palestine interaction.
Frankly, I think 1/3 answering “genocide” sounds positive to me. That’s enough to perhaps make some politicians think “maybe I can’t wholeheartedly throw complete support behind Israel and not have to worry about it having an electoral impact this time.”
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100% agree that we should use the term with caution and precision. That said, Israel is committing a genocide.
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The ICJ has just taken up a case finding the accusations against Israel plausible, so…
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I know this is a troll but just to be clear the role of the ICJ is literally to determine whether Israel’s alleged actions are capable of being covered by the Genocide Convention. Today they decided that this is indeed the case and the measures they announced, as meager as they are, are legally binding.
Calling someone names because they disagree with you isn’t helpful to the conversation, if that is indeed why you are here.
The bar for plausibility is very low, and rightly so, because the intention is to intervene early and protect civilians. The court will most likely issue an order to stop the fighting for humanitarian reasons. However, it will probably take a couple of years before they make a determination regarding the allegations of genocide.
Had to re read this a few times. Civilians are dying. The UN should stop it on humanitarian grounds. But hey, it’s the people calling it a genocide that need to be focused on. 🤔
Did I say that?
Fuck, that’s so low.
I wonder how many people in that poll could locate Gaza on a map with no names.
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… all I’m saying is that he had plenty of time to give that horse a name.
He was too busy looking at the trees and birds and rocks and ‘things’. Comically lazy songwriting
That’s my favorite line in the song because it’s so absurd
My parents are in the other two thirds
no, most of us just know what a genocide actually is
Pretty easy now to see how Nazi Germany got away with it.
So at least 1/3 are paying attention
So at least 1/3 have brain damage.
There’s no justification for Hamas’ terrorism, nor is their justification for Isreal’s genocide.
They don’t care how loudly you condemn Hamas. Scream it till you’re blue in the face and they’ll just call you a Hamas sympathizer anyway.
1/3 think there isn’t a genocide in Gaza so yes.
Then opinions are shifting. Good.
If that headline said one third of Americans don’t believe Israel is commiting genocide which is also an accurate from the results it would set a very different tone.
“less than half”
Imagine you, your friends and your family get killed and washed away from your land, and 2/3 of US people don’t believe it’s genocide.
Murdering people at a music festival and taking hostages might have an effect on public perception.
The problem is, before they wemt on that murdering spree, the western world pretty much ignored their plight, or maybe tutted when they chucked a rocket or two over the border. But any kind of “proper” political solution was flatly ignored. It’s not a justification, but I have to say that I umderstand why that situation led to a “fuck it, let’s just rampage” attitude. And look, they actually have a tonne of eyeballs and attention on their shitty situation (and shitty leaders), so maybe something will come of this. Palestinians are paying an exorbitantly heavy price for it, though.
It’s not a justification, but I have to say that I understand why that situation led to a “fuck it, let’s just rampage” attitude.
Reminds me of this.
She’s got the energy we all need if we’re ever going to eat the rich.
Sure, but again - if you murder people at a music festival and take hostages, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that terrorists won that one.
Sure, but again, if you indiscriminately kill innocent people in Gaza and destroy the very last university, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that Israel won that one.
Absolutely. Not sure why you would think I don’t understand the hatred Israel is getting.
The only thing for sure is that Israel won that one.
Not sure what Israel won, despite making sure there will be another generation of Palestinian freedom fighters with rather questionable methods.
I wasn’t making a statement about you, I just wanted to demonstrate the statement can be made in any way.
I agree, Israel bred the Hamas of tomorrow for sure. But they did win in terms of getting closer to turning Gaza into a settlement.
Still peddling these lies huh? You watched the video of the university explosion. Was it not already bombed out and partially collapsed?
Is it indiscriminate killing if you literally call the people in the phone first and tell them bombs are coming?
Two wrongs don’t make a right. A county based on abrahamic religion should know that. It just proves that they don’t actually believe in their own religion and only hide behind it whenever it’s convenient for them, like saying anybody who disagrees with them supports Hamas.
Two wrongs don’t make a right
Absolutely agree.
A county based on abrahamic religion should know that
Dude, have you seen all the shit countries based on abrahamic religions have done through out the history?
ike saying anybody who disagrees with them supports Hamas.
And the other side says that anyone disagreeing with them is a genocidal nazi. I would say the whole discussion at this point is rather heated and fucked up.
I mean, Israel is committing genocide, that’s not up for debate here.
And people who disagree with you?
They’re either ingnorant or shills.
Do you think this about all people who disagree with you - or just on this particular topic?
Average Us public have no clue what is going on in their own country, it is actually amazing there 1/3 know at least there is a genocide taking place.
In other news: 2/3rds of Americans are retarded.
As I understand the term genocide, that seems not to exactly be what is happening here. Although one could say it certainly rhymes with it.
Or in other words, two thirds believe they don’t, which is way more drastic.
35% say it is, 36% say it isn’t, with 29% undecided.
Seems the headline makes it seem that way, but in reality we seem to be having a close race
saw this one making the rounds the other day, I think it’s quite fitting https://twitter.com/SaeedDiCaprio/status/1750152798623195473
do not use other genocides to describe this one
You gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.
Then it was a poor sample.
1,659 is a fine sample size?
Considering we have a population of 331,464,948, I would say it’s not lol
I personally think we’re committing genocide, but I would imagine a sample size that is under 1% of the US population is small
A sample size of 1,659 out of a population size of 334,914,895, with a population proportion of 50% and confidence level of 95% gives an error margin of 2.41%.
1,659 is a fine sample size.
Humans are very bad at intuitively visualizing statistics.
If there’s anything I would not fault somebody about, it’s misunderstanding sampling in a statistical sense. Just about the biggest case of “plug into formula and pray” of all of my classes I took. I’m looking back and it’s just Greek letters to me now…
Oh yes, it’s not meant as a slight. It’s just something that humans need to be aware of. Just like how we need a forklift to move a one-ton object, we need to run calculations and trust the math when doing statistics.
2/3rds of Americans aren’t fucking morons based on this reporting. Still a scary number of idiots.