Content moderation is gonna be tough, especially when advertising for absolute freedom of speech. It’s possible trolls will ruin the environment in a very short time if moderation and its rules wouldn’t be very clear and applied when necessary

Love how you ran away from your stance as soon as you were required to provide the evidences cited in your comment. Really a true conservative

Absolutely. Poverty comes never alone, it usually brings other friends to the party. Like poor education, lack of security, stress, poor nurishment and poor social environment. All this together can easily bring out the worst of people, while the contrary can improve their conditions.

If you are focused on surviving you’ll never be able to grow as we are all supposed to

Because the movie does not hint at eugenetics as solution to the crisis, it’s a hymn against stupidity and a cry to better educate the masses. First of all about sexual education and the danger of unprotected sex and secondly about politics and civic duties. I mean, I really don’t see how one could interpret the message of the movie as “do eugenetics”, that’s all.

That’s not true at all, genetics only play a part in the mental development of a person, much of it is instead related to the environment where a person has been growing.

It is as with talent, some people are better than other at certain activities but even the most gifted person cannot compete with a professional who has spent his life training and studying his craft.

The same can be said for “intelligence”: if you are never taught to think you’ll never think once in your lifetime, even if you are the exact copy of Leonardo da Vinci; on the other hand, even if you are thick as a rock but you’ve been growing in a society focused on your development you’ll be able to become a normal person.

Eugenetic politics do nothing for humanity betterment, social structure is much more important IMHO

Here in Italy the first one to learn and adapt is always the mafia. The state is so clunky and unnecessarily complicated that it takes ages for it to change and adapt its ways, once this happens the mafia has already changed and transformed to keep away from the law enforcement hands as much as possible.

Nowadays mafiosi do not go around in poor clothing with weapons on them, the wear nice suits and briefcases filled with documents to keep on their shady businesses as they did from the Borbonic times

Yeah, I know, but even his story is far from being over. He might be dead but his clan and his way if conducting business are certainly not over: assuming the opposite is exactly what mafia would like us to know since it requires ignorance from both the people and the state to thrive at the best of its abilities.

Cave semper canem when talking about mafia and choose your words carefully as they are vmmasters if trickery and deception on top of being horrible human beings (if such kind of animals can be even called “humans” at this point).

Peppino Impastato forever an hero, Messina Denaro forever a shitstain on the heel of the Italian boot

puts the end to a story of violence and blood

Yeah, sure Biondi, we can rest easy knowing mafia has been defeated once and for all. /s

What a fucking clown in a fucking circus if a country. Mafia will never be healthier than when we think it to be dead, they thrive in the shadows and in the cover this kind of happenings provide.

Let me lmao at you and at your view of how a state should actually function. A state is not at the service of its enterprises, it should only be concerned with the well-being of its inhabitants and citizens: should a state work according to your view then we shouldn’t have any public transport, public school or public health. Basically nothing should be founded by the state given that all of these investments do not bear direct returns after they are placed.

Why don’t workplaces arrange training courses to ease the entrance of their workforce in their ranks? Is it maybe to save on costs while maximising profits? And why should the state be responsible to form the companies workforces if it doesn’t receive anything back from the same companies asking for trade schools instead of colleges?

Late stage capitalism must fall and this moment will never arrive soon enough

I do absolutely agree with you, the mistake we are making is the value we place on management jobs: as of today society thinks of managers as above the production workers but, in reality, it should be the other way around.

A good management can increase the profitability of a workforce but will never be able to do the same job the workforce does.

On the contrary workers can and have proven to be able to do the management work if tasked with this request and can even do better. This scares the managers who are doing whatever they can to hide this truth from their employees.

We just need to understand the power we do have in our hands to finally win this uphill battle against interest groups, and COVID has greatly helped us in this sense. Even in your case you could arrange a strike with your colleagues to force your manager to understand how shit he is at his job and force him to resign by going to his direct superior should he not be able to change his ways. Should he be the owner of the company: leave. It’s better to be between jobs that to be chained to a desk which makes you unhappy everyday of your life IMHO.

I don’t feel the need to get into the weeds on the meaning of words with you.

Oh my, I’m sorry you commented on my post, I’ll try to avoid you commenting again in future to my replies. Facepalm

You’re not intent on living in reality - in fact, you believe Marx coined the term “capitalists.”

I’ve never said Marx coined the word “capitalists”. I agreed with the OP to this thread that he was together with Hegel the one rationalising and explaining class warfare to the masses.

Strong agree.

Less LMAOs and more debate then

This is not a “succession planning” the owners of the companies left and the workers were faced with a choice: loose their jobs or take the place of those who betrayed them. They went for the latter option and re-arranged the companies structures by themselves, proving that workers can do the management job without problems. Read the article that I attached to my comment please. I still haven’t heard one single example of the contrary from you.

It would be literally impossible for me to explain in a single comment how disastrous that was for the company.

It was such a disaster that you are not able to explain it in a comment nor to find an external reference which may do that in your place. Must be hard being this comfortable in your world view without any supporting evidence. Furthermore I reckon this company is still up and running. Tell me, would an equal percentage of the working force had left instead of the middle and senior management do you think you would still have a job today?

Almost as spectacular as the void left by your reply. You assess I misinterpreted the literal vocabulary definition of “capital” yet you don’t provide any alternative definition to counter my argument

lmao

Risus abundat in ore stultorum

On the other hand I can bring you countless examples of factories and plants shut down due to mismanagement caused by the company upper echelons. The presence of a management is not the reason why companies provides their goods and services to their customers, it’s the workforce behind them the reason why they are able to maintain their businesses.

Point proven, there are many instances of companies whose management left due to financial hardships which were picked up by their unionised workforce who were able to continue and grow the company business (https://www.mitbestimmung.it/workers-buyouts-a-growing-trend-in-italy-50-companies-saved-by-workers-in-last-5-years/). I’m not aware of any example of the contrary tho, can you bring any to the table?

The banking system: as far as private banking goes I’m with you, a stop the their activities would be a blow to the world economy. But, even in this turbo-capitalist system, we still do have central banks which answer to the states and which would be required to intervene in a catastrophic event such as a general strike to limit its ramifications. We would loose access to our savings, that’s true, but with enough cooperation between workers and states, I’m sure we would be able to bring the bankers to their knees.

Lastly, here in Europe we do have union for managers and CEOs, none of whom has ever called for a strike. One might think it has to do with the fact that they are the ones taking the decisions and therefore don’t need to have their voices heard but the reality is far more mundane: nobody would give a shit should they quit their job and workers would be more than qualified to obtain their positions should they never come back to work.

That’s exactly what capitalism is. The root definition of capital is: “wealth in the form of money or other assets owned by a person or organization or available for a purpose such as starting a company or investing”

So yes, if someone has money available for anything other than basic necessities and sufficient to help him start a business enterprise he or she can be defined as “capitalist”.

Just because we didn’t use this name for kings, nobles and priests in the past doesn’t mean that capitalists never existed before the advent of Marx

Well, one of the two parties available is bent over in respecting corporate interests while eroding societal safety nets, the other is doing the same but with an accent on religious authoritarianism in service of an orange Cheeto.

There would be more than enough space for them to cooperate on common ground but, unfortunately for the oligarchs, the latter party seems to have lost the script of the standard political play and is now giving it’s leading roles to real nutsacks who are (unwillingly) exposing the inner workings of the political machine for everyone to see. As I see the situation from Italy this can only be a good thing as seeing the innards of a broken machine is the first step to start its necessary maintenance

You recognize all conservatives to be authoritarian pieces of shit, you dunk on them at any chance you get both IRL and on line and you go on with your life.

How does that sound?

But-but can’t you think about the implications for their political careers??? Poor Bois would have to abandon a life of ease and good food to start actually working in the society they helped create. Imagine the HORROR!!

Well, to be fair one doesn’t need to be a philosopher to see this truth in his everyday life: why is that the only class capable of organising strikes which can paralyze society is the WORKING class and not the managerial one? Maybe because it’s the working class providing the services and activities needed to maintain our societies functional?

Try organising a strike of the management and banking system, my guess is that we would keep on living as nothing really happened (given that banks would maintain our access to our founding, on the contrary I still think workers would be able to survive much longer than the corporate counterparts should they be able to attain a minimum level of cooperation).

Of course the resourcing to violence by the ruling class through police forces and mandate working could be an issue but those working for law enforcement should be ready to attack their friends and families and I don’t think everyone of them would be able to do so

I think he meant they were inspired in their writing to provide an answer to fuckwits like the one in the article. Evil capitalists are not a modern occurrence, they existed in the whole of human history unfortunately