Icq “ah ohhhhh”

i dont doubt that. atleast that its your daily life. but a lot of stuff in my daily life simply is an edge case. nothing wrong about it. beeing on lemmy is all in all an edge case. i wish it wouldnt be. but in fact i have met so far only a single guy who even knew what reddit is in rl. let alone lemmy. with that in mind i want to go back to the phone with 32gb of ram but with a midspec 5 year old soc. yes, i can imagine someone which can make use of that configuration. it still is a weird ass config. case in point; every other hardware config of a popular current phones. so i dont really know whats your point with your screenshot and i dont know how i dismiss your experience. like wtf

i fucking mentioned edge cases in my first post

so, running 50+ instances of different programs at the same time is your argument why a phone needs 32gigs of ram. thanks for the discussion dear internet person. especially after i stated several hours ago there might be edge cases.

lmao. so you cant give me reason and just post some memes instead. fair enough. idgf. its a cool device. having 32gb of RAM is fucking rad on a phone. but its stupid. its an inbalenced configuration with that weak ass soc. that was my whole point. but you couldnt even prove your point on an academic level.

it is. i firmly state: fuck apple. now give me a single reason why an underpowered linux device needs 32gb.

fair enough, maybe i’m stupid(which i am) but give me a usecase for 32gb of ram. completly disregarding the fact that this thing is a phone. Using it as an desktop device via an usb-c hub. when do you need 32gb of ram involving software which isnt bottlenecked by a 5 year old mobile chip? My 12 core AMD 3900X and my 5800X3d ramp up their cooling fans before my RAM gets maxed out with eg Firefox. C’mon i already admitted that there are edge cases. But this configuration is weird man. Especially considering that linux in itself isnt a ram hog in general.

fair, but we’re still talking about 32 frigging GB of ram in a phone. not that it should count as a best practice baseline but apple sells 16gb laptops as the entry point and tbf at the moment its just enough and their performance is sitting in a completly different league

I dont need a laptop right now but damn this thing is sexy. Its been a long time since hardware gave me that “do want” itch even though i dont need it. Ryzen would have been great but even with an Intel SOC this thing is a compelling package.

Interesting, didnt know about the current state of eMMC. That would be certainly useable if its the new stuff.

Regarding the ram: Yeah, a lot of ram isnt bad. But it also costs money and i dont feel like that amount of ram in combination with the rest of the hardware is too beneficial. Maybe i lack the creativity but i dont see applications where you need that much of ram and wont be bottlenecked by that 5 year old mid tier mobile SOC. Like my desktop gaming rig has 32gb of ram and current flagship phones still use sometimes just 12gb and go up to 24gb in very rare cases. 32gb just feel imbalenced with the rest of the hardware.

This feels off. Just the hardware configuration doesnt make any sense. The soc will be over 5 years old when this thing releases. Those four a76 cores @ 2,4 Ghz wont wow you with their performance and would be a downgrade compared to a flagship with a SD865 released 5 years ago. Which is alright by its own tbh. But why the fuck combine it with 32gb of ram? Thats just excessive and apart from hyper specific edge cases this just doesnt make any sense. Especially when looking at the eMMC storage. Personally i already find UFS 3.1 painfully slow when it comes to desktopish usecases sometimes. But eMMC is just pure ass.

This is like buying a pre built with a 12100f with 128gb of ram and only harddrives as storage. Like there is probably a really small market for that. But for everybody else it would be just such a bad choice.

show me that magic llm which doenst infringe the copyright of nearly everybody, which doesnt have an unprecedentet impact on the enviroment to train and run, which wont be used to cut of people from their income, which isnt owned by technocratic billionaire assholes, which isnt peddled and promoted by fascist goverments, which doesnt halluzinate, which isnt a blackbox, which actually works and doesnt fail at the simplest tasks sometimes, which doesnt infringe my privacy(allegedly tbf, but you know). the list goes on.

sure, sure technology itself isnt evil. but thats not hill i want to die on in case of llms. they’re problematic on so many levels. full stop. i dont think its a naive take to have some skepticism against this clusterfuck. potentially some technologies could make the world a better place. but llms dont fit into this category.

Why not both?

Yeah, it will be interesting to see how this pans out. With that calender anecdote i just wanted say that its already slowly happening.

Also this horrible made with AI trailer for ARK Evolved just dropped a few days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2eCWWaCzwQ

For now i’m at the point where when i see a company use AI in any obvious way their legitimacy drops in instant to rock bottom. But i can see that easily change over the years if this just becomes common practice and i start to dont give a shit anymore.

Already spotted two calenders with AI “art” in the wild. Both were calenders which are given away by companies for free as marketing.

I understand why but i still hate it tbh. First because a day where i dont spot ai slop is a good day and second is the implication that now in atleast two cases not a single legimate artist got paid. Sucks.

i’m way less concerned since i read the question correctly the second time.

My first thought went to those M-Disk/BDXL bluray disks which supposed to last 1000 years if you believe the claims. So with 100gb per disk you would need atleast 1000 disks. Probably more since the data probably wont perfectly fill out each disk. Writing to optical media is slow and according to the very first searchresult i found it takes upwards of 3hrs to write and verify a single disk. So with a single drive it would take atleast north of 3000 hours if nothing goes wrong. A year has ~8760 hours btw. Oh boi.

But i wouldnt want to rely on a single copy of each disk. If the data is so important i would like to have atleast 10 copies? So the year would probably consist of only maintaining and repairing several burning rigs and going through like 35.000 edit: 11.000 blurays and then finding spots to safely store them.

But how will they read the data of the disks in the future? Blurays and todays data formats most likely wont exist anymore. So you would need several redundant PCs with bluray drives which hopefully last that long. The HDD/SSD wont last in them. Linux live disks burned on the blurays? On top foolproof documentation how to operate all that ancient shit.

My head hurts