“Even though we’re pushing through pricing, the consumer is tolerating it well,” he said in October analyst call.

normal way to talk about ‘fellow’ human beings

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    Inflation and wage theft are absolutely out of control in this country. I’m a barista. My store makes $1600 in a eight-hour day. Mine and all of my coworker’s wage in there probably adds up to about $50/hour on average. So the profit margin is ridiculous. And these businesses have the gall to think they can make MORE MONEY. No, fuck you. At some point the human beings doing the hard work need to get a bigger cut.

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      make sure you count utilities and rent for the building and supplies etc, its still ridiculous but slightly less so

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        And franchise fees. They take a percentage of gross. I really don’t know why anybody gets involved with that stuff.

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        Yeah of course there are operating expenses, but you have these same companies buying the lowest quality equipment and products they can get away with as well. It’s inexcusable.

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      What most irritates me about this - plus layoffs to increase profits- is that the corporate numbnuts overlook the fact that every employee they stiff is a customer. Everyone is someone’s customer. A customer who has a shrinking amount of disposable income to spend on white goods, new clothes, eating out etc. They think hurrah, with AI we’ll be able to sack our creatives! Next thing they’re whining because there are so many homeless people on the streets. There’s a link! It’s exasperating.

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        I’ve literally worked in the oil field throwing pipe wrenches around, and it was usually easier than what I see some food service employees putting up with lol

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        It’s brutal. More draining than any other retail job I’ve worked, and I’ve been in warehouses, unloaded trucks. Especially near a airport or hospital some locations do business NONSTOP. And the customers? FIENDING for sugar and caffeine in the form of some obscure, brand new tiktok hack that uses ingredients we probably don’t have in stock and is made the total opposite of how a reasonable person would want it. It’s like any other job, a lot of people DO put in hard work and most of those get nowhere but burned out.

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          Thank you for what you do. On top of that there’s cultivating the place’s atmosphere, which isn’t easy. I used to do homework and study at coffee shops all the time in college

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            Right back atcha - atmosphere is SO important to the higher-ups, and it really is a big challenge to maintain given the low pay, early mornings, demanding customers and scammy, if all-too-normalized business practices.

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              It’s one of the few times I’ll agree with a higher-up’s priorities. There’s a very significant difference between a fast, bustling coffee shop atmosphere and a laid back one. The former makes me think of an airport or mall kiosk – or most Starbucks, honestly. You go in, you get your drink, you get out.

              The laid back, homey atmosphere is definitely my favorite though. That’s where you can actually catch up with friends or play a board game, read a book, or get homework/work/studying done.

              And a big part of that is you guys. It’s a nice surprise when a barista at the place I usually go to recognizes me and knows what I want to order. Or they’ll strike up a conversation or tell me that technically, the butterbeer latte can be ordered year round.

              You guys are some of my favorite people :). Don’t let haters talk you down.

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        I’ve worked a lot of jobs. I much preferred moving furniture and pulling carpet to my work as a barista. It’s still a physical job where you are on your feet all day but with the added stress of dealing with entitled customers.

        Now that I’ve moved on dealing with other humans is still the worst part of my job. Leave me alone and let me fix shit and I’m happy.

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        Ah yes, let’s start belittling people so that the working class continues to infight. Thank you for your contributions to the rich.

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      What’s wrong with Mormons? In South Park, they were the only religion whose devout followers have been treated kindly.

      Though I haven’t seen The Book of Mormon…

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        The race bigotry, the anything that isn’t hereto hate, the normalizing of totally cutting people off if they deviate from the cult?

        But if you’re basing your views on south park I’ve got bad news for you.

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        You mean besides being an uber controlling cult that embezzles millions if not billions of dollars?

        Also Book of Mormon is excellent, highly encourage you to go see it! There’s not a bad seat in the house for Broadway.

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    I heard about this and lmao no deal mcdicks.

    Hash brown is 99 cents. Figure it out. We can see your market value.

    I vow to not buy a McDonald’s hash brown until it is below $1

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      Honestly where I live I can get a ni e pub meal for about the same price as one of their burger meals.

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    I actually don’t hate the burgers McDonald’s has now. They are hot, and often hit the spot for me.

    HOWEVER, a double quarter pounder meal is now like $10, and it’s just not worth it when I have other options next door or across the street that sell better food for about the same price.

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      Same, my daughter wanted their fries recently and we caved and bought it, and it was actually quite juicy and tasty.

      Ironically the fries were undercooked soggy potatoes, so win some lose some I guess.

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        It’s very location dependent. It was the only place to stop that was open on a recent road trip that I took. The bun was stale and the patties were overcooked. The pickles were fine I guess.

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    McDonald’s used to be viable because it was shit, but at least it was cheap. Now it’s just shit. I haven’t gone of my own will in years, only with other people who wanted it. $3 for a hash brown is absurd.

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    There’s a burger place near me which makes a great burger - good quality ingredients, interesting toppings, great fries and they’re cheaper than McDonalds. Given McDonald’s prices on ingredients will be substantially cheaper, and their volume higher, this is just pure greed.

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      Yeah there is a little drive through burger stand 2 blocks away from me. Amazing burger and fries combo for $11. The only downside is their service is super slow, but that’s a crapshoot at nearly every fast food chain at this point

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        Yeah there is a great place near me that does a really, really good double with pimento, chili, fresh onion and jalapeno for around that too. 2 people getting food, a loaded fry (that’s actually loaded), and tip is somewhere around $30. I don’t see why I would eat at any fast food chain.

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      My local burger places are just like that. Absolutely bonkers what people with a routine will tolerate if the change is slow.

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        Some people are open to trying new things, they want the excitement of trying out a new restaurant or take out, they want to try types of food they’ve never eaten before.

        Then there are the other type. They behave in the same way as children do, they want what they like, and will not take a risk on something new, even on something as pedestrian as a burger.

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          This seems pretty black and white. Ironically.

          I love trying new food. But sometimes I just want to order something where I know what I am going to get.

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          I’ve worked with a 50 year old man that gets upset if there isn’t a nearby Chick-fil-A. He eats the same thing every day. By his other behaviors I assume it’s undiagnosed OCD or something so we don’t give him shit about it.

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            My former coworker got the exact same thing from chipotle every single day. Nothing wrong with him, just really liked his routine. Some people are like that.

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    As someone who works in a mom and pop restaurant, I understand this. McDonalds is huge and buys/manufactures in bulk, sure, so their prices are gonna be cheaper, but their costs are still going up like the rest of us. It kills me to keep seeing our menu updates, but food is fucking expensive now. I’m not saying that McDonalds isn’t pulling down a tidy profit, and if food costs dropped they probably wouldn’t drop their price, but I don’t put the price increase solely on them. Food costs are rising all over, and it’s killing the business. I have a spreadsheet from 6 years ago when I first started analyzing our costs, and my most recent sheet shows anywhere between 150 and 200% increase across the board. That’s absurd. So, blame McDonalds for whatever you want, I won’t stop you, but make sure to aim some hate at the production side of things as well.

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      Pretty sure McDonald’s has had more than a 200% increase in menu prices over the last 6 years. Pretty sure labor and other overhead has gone down, and last I checked those were a bigger portion of the menu price than the food itself.

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      The end solution is still the same. If we stop buying it, McDonald’s stops ordering it which gives the production companies shockedpikachu.gif

      It’s gotta start somewhere.

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        The issue is how many people love paying for McDonald’s. Go home and cook for my family tonight? Nah, that’s too much work. It’s much easier to spend $50 at McDonald’s.

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        And that will never happen. That is the consumer equivalent of kicking the can down the road. “I’ll do my part and stop buying, surely everyone else will do the same and corporations will stop being greedy.” That’s never going to happen, and if you stop at that point, you may as well just keep buying it. Costs have to be regulated. Bailouts have to stop happening. Tax breaks have to end for corporations that don’t act in the best interest of the taxed. We have to hold the government accountable for protecting it’s people, because for as long as people have been people, we’ve found new and creative ways to fuck others over while justifying it as supply and demand. Supply and demand has been a lie since the dawn of the industrial revolution. There is no demand on the supply of necessities that cannot be met with modern means. The cost of grain is still the seed the soil and the sweat. Stop inflating costs, and the economy will balance. However, without regulation, those costs will continue to inflate, and the lowest will always have to suffer.

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      I’ve heard food prices are up because of the Russian war raising the price of fertilizer (depends heavily on natural gas) and animal feed (Ukraine was one of the world’s largest suppliers). McDonald’s profits are up 17% year-over-year though, so they’re definitely raising prices faster than their costs are increasing.

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    “Some customers are fed up and pushing back”

    But continuing to buy things from them, yeah? Companies are not going to change until people stop buying from them.

    Nobody needs McDonald’s. I’m not even sure most people actually want McDonald’s. Just stop going, seriously.

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      I hate McDonald’s. I eat McDonald’s. If I get into some tiny town or get off work in a tiny town at 11pm or later it’s often the only place open.

      What I don’t understand is people who eat there by choice. I sometimes work with a guy who will go to McDonald’s by choice, even with better/cheaper options, three times a day.

      I wonder how much of McDonald’s average franchise net income is from road warriors.

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        God damn. What fucked up nightmare is this if your ONLY choice is this toxic shitty unhealthy food?

        You poor fucking bastard. Your health will pay for that in time.

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          A ton of people work poor jobs or unfortunate hours and have their health suffer for it. No need to rub it in, he clearly doesn’t think it will be healthy.

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          You can get $1 breakfast sandwiches and $2 mcchicken with free fries in the app. I definitely use it when I want the cheapest lunch or breakfast option

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    For the longest time I knew fast food junk was not good for you so I ate less of it.

    During the pandemic I completely avoided fast food.

    It’s been three years now and I haven’t gone to any fast food at all.

    Now I can’t rationalize eating it any more.

    It isn’t healthy, it isn’t food, it has no nutrition, it has too much of the things that degrade your health. It’s also prepared by people being paid as little as possible to maximize the profit to the people who do the least in the transaction.

    From a health point of view is like investing in degrading your body … it’s like investing in rust for your car or pouring tiny amounts of water or sugar in your gas tank … it’s paying a premium for an unhealthy body in the future.

    And now it costs more … it costs more to ruin your health. So you spend a lot of money now to ruin your health and then spend a lot more money to fix your unhealthy self when you get older.

    When you look at it over a lifetime, it’s far cheaper to just not eat fast food