I dunno. Been improving my mental health lately and it doesn’t seems to that there’s so many subs on reddit where the only purpose seems to be wallowing in misery.

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    Half of Reddit is depressed and the other half likes that the first half are depressed. Reddit is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, and not in a good way.

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    I started lurking on a couple of my old favorite subs back when Lemmy (0.19 and 0.19.1) broke federation, and I eventually gave up.

    One is the local sub for my small city. It used to be the best way (other than face-to-face) to discuss local news and issues with peers. I don’t know if I had rose colored glasses on then or if it’s just turned vile, but the sub has an undercurrent of hate and xenophobia now. It’s like Nextdoor but without the geofencing.

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      Here’s what I think has happened/is happening:

      When the Internet was new, it was mostly the younger, chiller people.

      The Internet started going mainstream in the 90s, and now you have all the older people online who are retired and have nothing better to do that shit their racism and misogyny and bile out into a forum where they will get a couple thumbs up and that, to them, is huge validation.

      They told us forever that the Internet was a bad and scary place, and when they realized that wasn’t true, they showed up to make it one.

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        In your frame of experience that’s probably how you see it, but the early Internet users were all highly educated, technically-savvy employed intellectuals.

        Every year would bring a new wave of behavioral morons in the form of young students and that was okay because they were morons but at least they were learning.

        It all went to trash when it became available to the commoners.

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          Umm what? The early Internet was a great place due to highly educated employed users? And the commoners ruined it? Did I miss the /s?

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            I mean lot’s of things follow that trend. Look at drones for example - RC helicopters were around since (and I’m sure before) I was born and were never a huge problematic thing with people flying them in dangerous places above people or near airports (although I’m sure there were very specific cases where those did occur).

            But during that time they were both A) expensive and B) required a lot of practice and skill to operate. Anyone that spent the large amount of money and will to put in the time to learn to fly them probably had the common sense to not fly them near people or airports. Bit when anybody can spend $100 on a drone of the convenience aisle at checkout, you start seeing all sorts of problems.

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        Heheh…I hate to break it to you, but it’s not just old people who have nothing better to do than shit out racism misogyny and bile.

        And I think this is how every new tech goes. I mean, the community here still seems much more civil because we’re smaller in number.

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      There’s actually been a concerted effort to turn city subs into vile, toxic, right-wing spaces. Especially the more liberal cities like San Francisco and Chicago. The members of the sub are not representative of the members of the city. It’s mostly right wing brigading.

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    I had the very bad judgment to suggest (on Reddit) that people would be better off in a more progressive, forward-leaning society. That was enough to get me banned permanently.

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      Yeah, it’s a social media thing not just a Reddit thing. Hasn’t been as common here yet but I’ve certainly encountered some miserable people here.

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    Lost sheep without a shepard. But honestly I think it’s momentum. Soon they may see the light and flock to Lemmy.

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    The same is true of Twitter, Bluesky, Mastodon, and Lemmy. There are pockets of shitty users everywhere. I don’t think it’s endemic to Reddit. I do think their moderation fuckery and homogenization of the top subreddits has made it much more obvious there.

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      Honestly Mastodon is pretty nice compared to Reddit or Lemmy. It’s like mostly a bunch of gay and trans ppl posting pics of their cats or gardens and saying they are “eepy” all the time then writing out long technical posts about the Linux kernel or group theory or something.

      I’m pretty sure the tone of this place would go up a few ticks if every other post had a blob fox emoji.

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      I think it’s really obvious when you break it down, the people who post the most on these platforms are the ones who are online the most. It’s also been proven that those people who are online the most are the least mentally healthy.

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      I’d agree with this.

      I also kind of think it doesn’t help that every joke or meme — seemingly — we get now has the punchline as being like “…I guess I’ll die.” There always seems like there’s a negative bend to the joke, and even if we understand that it’s a joke (“Missed the bus; guess I’ll die”), seeing that over and over again all over the place can start to taint your perception some.

      Or at least it can for me.

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      I had some hope for Bluesky. I thought it was going to be the mid term between Twitter and Mastodon, but I got disappointed.

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    Yeah, and I know why through extrapolation.

    Any time I encouraged gratitude, or maybe taking a break from bitterness and resentment and plotting to kill the rich, I was called a nazi. This led to me getting banned from an accelerating pile of subreddits.

    So basically, on reddit, anything other than wallowing is misery is considered:

    • nazi
    • therefore disruptive
    • therefore bannable

    And the positive people got kicked out

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      You sure you weren’t just acting like a nazi? That’s a fairly specific insult for you to receive it multiple times in unrelated communities.

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        To play devil’s advocate, some mods lurk on other subreddits to preemptively ban people they don’t like. It could be that they’re talking about a mod like u/awkwardtheturtle who modded like half the site.