“Fail” or “Succeed” is based on your perspective.
Capitalism won’t fail. It’s a great success to the rich who get richer by manipulating it.
Capitalism is a success, just not for us or anyone we know.
The 1% don’t give a shit about that. If they did it wouldn’t be an issue in the first place.
Yes but capitalism depends on the working class to continue consuming. As that becomes increasingly more difficult and also natural resources are depleting, the system is going to collapse
Automation powered socialism or famine. Depends where you live I guess. Some places will fare better than others. I think predictive factors will be level of corruption and magnitude of wealth gap as well as general education of populace.
Europe Tribes?
It already has failed. This is what comes after.
Dunno. But fascism is what happens after it succeeds.
The dystopian cyberpunk future William Gibson tried to warn us about.
Spoiler: We’re already living in it.
“The future is here, it’s just not very evenly distributed.”
The sky the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel has never looked prettier though…
It doesn’t fail. It succeeds horribly.
It also fails, though. It’s unsustainable, Capitalists sew the seeds of their own downfall. They just hope they enjoy the ride and pass the buck off to someone else.
Neo-feudalism, then the thinning of the herd once high levels of automation are achieved.
Population decreases are already happening in modernized, wealthy countries, no need to do anything there. The poorer ones will end up starving as the climate collapses, so that’s basically taken care of too. Population collapse isn’t always good, though, somebody has to buy the goods and services.
We’re just going to revisit all the classics. Company towns, fuedalism, etc. The wasted potential is just sickening.
Fascism. It’s fascism.
Economic and social collapse dislocates a lot of people. It dislocates people who think they shouldn’t be dislocated, because they played by the rules. They go to church, they had a job, they’re patriotic to their best understanding of the word.
Then, in their minds, something must have changed. It might be the immigrants, or the Jews, or the gays, or weirdly drag queens for some reason this time around. Then someone comes along who validates them as victims and promises a return to their historical glory days.
The last paroxysm is the election or ascendency of a far right populist who elevates that narrative. They promise to restore national pride and return to traditional values, and to return the nation to its roots which had made it strong and put them on top.
It’s happened multiple times around the world, and there are a lot of books and articles on how and why it happens.
A square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.
Just say authoritarianism. Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history. Words have meaning and you don’t get to assign values to them because one helps your political motive better than the other.
Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history.
Are you putting the fascist regimes of Germany, Italy and Spain into one basket? Also the current regime in Russia?
Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history.
Blatantly false.
Everything fascist supports says is a lie to forward fascism.
Fascism is a characteristic of capitalist economies - it cannot exist without capitalism.
So no.
Yeas, in the sense that fascism is borne in capitalism, but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.
but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.
No, it doesn’t. Fascism poses no threat to capitalism and never has - that’s the whole reason capitalists eagerly fund fascists into power. Some fascists might dislike capitalism - such as Franco, for instance - but that doesn’t mean fascism can exist without it in any way, shape or form.
Oh you got me wrong, of course fascism is created to serve capitalists, but after the fascist power grab, they don’t need to have the theatre of freedom™ and markets anymore.
Neo-stoneage.
I remember reading a Guardian article in which it discussed the requirements of any market to either evolve or die based on the circumstances it finds itself in.
It highlighted that because Communism could not adapt quickly enough to its circumstances that it failed - the centrally governing authority were not able to efficiently or effectively govern the market at the time. Leading to multiple issues.
I would like to see the evolution of Capitalism. That we do not view everything only through an economic lens- there needs to be environmental, societal and political factors which must also be taken into account.
That and personal accountability and responsibility for business practices. For example you can pollute that waterway but we will take all your profits and you go to jail for 30years
Capitalism evolves into either Socialism or fascism, so we should push for Socialism.
I think this is the ideal. Capitalism is reigned in and regulated, consumers are encouraged to buy more expensive products in exchange for better conditions for the associated workers and the planet, labor unions surge, and billionaires are taxed out of existence.
We return to bigger army diplomacy.
Jk, we never left that system.
@hosford42
The ascendancy of bowling 🎳Post scarcity anarchism. I suggest you read Walkaway by Cory Doctorow. It made me into a (re)believer.
Feel free to pirate the book. Mr. Doctorow doesn’t mind. He walks the walk.
