OP is either a bot or a right-wing troll. I suspected as much based on the language used in the post, but I replied in good faith. They claim to be “leftist” but then say that nothing bad happened under Trump or Bolsonaro or as a result of Brexit. OP is most likely intending to lull progressives into complacency by spreading “the right isn’t a threat” BS so we feel less urgency to vote.

Corroborating evidence is that their entire post history is this thread and an AI image with racist overtones.

ETA they’re probably a bot based on how quickly they’re replying to comments and the length of those replies.

I said the same thing back in 2008. After Obama won I assumed the right-wing nutjobs in the States were just getting louder because they knew they were dying off.

Then we got Brexit, and Trump, and Bolsonaro. The far right kept winning one major vote after another.

The fascist right will always sound ridiculous to anyone with a brain and not an agenda. That doesn’t mean they aren’t a huge threat. Progressives can never become complacent.

The smarter people on the far right want you to underestimate them and write them off a harmless weirdos. While you’re paying attention to all their wacky hijinks they are quietly trying to strip away your rights one by one so that you won’t even realize what’s happened until it’s already too late.

Concern troll with fresh account. Nothing to see here.

Go and check who’s currently second in line to the US presidency then tell me the far right aren’t rising in power. Thinking it’s a false narrative to trick leftists is the best way to reverse Uno yourself into fascist totalitarianism I can think of.

Sounds like something one of my great grandparents would have said 5 to 10 years before being sent to a concentration camp.

an attempt by the neo liberal establishment to trick class focused leftist into supporting the status quo as a bulwark against a far right rise.

that’s exactly how fascism rises (and is very much rising, globally) to power:

https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

There are dangers of the far right that don’t require them to attain complete governmental control. They can move the Overton window. They can push the center right further from center. They can increase violence against minorities. They can put pressure on specific agenda items, either by obstructing government function, or by agreeing to cooperate on more popular agenda items in exchange.

None of these are hypothetical. This is just what’s already happening.

Absolutely

What do you define as them “winning”? You can say that out and open neo-nazis will never make up a majority of the voting populace. But they don’t need to be a majority to do real damage, and they shouldn’t be ignored just because they’re under 51%.

Look at everything that’s been happening already. Trump. Bolsonaro. Brexit. The repeal of Roe v. Wade. The erosion of LGBT rights. These are real issues, and they will not go away if we close our eyes.

And outside of just legislation they pass, consider a more human perspective. Each and every impressionable person that gets suckered into their ideology, that they teach to hate, that’s a tragedy already. We need to do everything we can to save people from hate.

You can’t possibly be that stupid.

Fake.

Easy block.

I think “far right” is rather fringe group of people and most accused of belonging to it actually don’t. I also don’t know what you mean by “rise”

However, in the US and in many other countires too it’s generally the conservatives that are having children and more often than not kids adopt the politics of their parents so yeah I’d say it’s a relatively safe assumption that right-wingers will outnumber the left in not too distant future.

“the far right is rising” narrative is an attempt by the neo liberal establishment to trick class focused leftist into supporting the status quo as a bulwark against a far right rise.

I understand that it sucks when at the second round of the election you need to choose between a liberal-conservative and a far-righter, it sucks and you end-up bringing a pair of gloves to vote (Metaphorically, please don’t do it on election day, spare some reporting to the volunteers).

However, we know the classic liberal-conservative, they want to reduce taxes (for the rich), cut down welfare benefit, won’t vote any societal law, and might even pass a couple of regressions there (will healthcare system still cover transgender care ? Will they pass a law to defend the Christian roots ?)

Far-righter are a different kind, they suck at economy, and are obsessed with societal questions, look at US or Italy far example, look at their geopolitical view aligned with Putin. So basically individual rights will move backward (and it’s not just about “LGBT” and “non white” rights), economy will tank (rich people will get bigger yacht while minimal wage worker will be fucked), and police will get more powerful than ever.

Moreover, the fact that their idea are popular means that liberals are allying with far-righter, like we see the budget for police increasing, better laws for private school (in the name of freedom), while they start to attack trans rights)

If you look at history, authoritarian governments have repeatedly emerged over and over from strongman movements.

Is this particular rise likely to lead to that? It’s a definite maybe. Better not to risk it.

I feel like this “the far right is rising” narrative is an attempt by the neo liberal establishment to trick class focused leftist into supporting the status quo as a bulwark against a far right rise.

I see what you mean but it’s less a trick and more making use of a convenient situation. The far right is rising, and dragging the rest of the US with them. Also the odds are definitely not stacked against them, especially with Biden (aka Genocide Joe) as the Democrat candidate.