The problem is for those of us who go out of our way to make women feel more comfortable and safe in male dominated environments, hearing women treat you with the same disdain as a sex pest just makes you stop giving a shit.
Which again, I’m sure has happened with other “women when x occurs” memes as well.
Overall very eye opening. I’ll hold my own doors and stop moderating conversations I guess. Just keeping to my own business.
This entire issue is clearly just another culture war wedge being pushed by right wing think tanks except the target audience absolutely ate this one up as well as the victims.
Bro, honestly, you shouldn’t let a few people arguing about a meme online stop you from respecting the women who are actually in your life.
Door holding for the people behind you is respectful no matter if they’re a man or a woman. I think most people hold the door if they’re paying attention.
But stopping a conversation from going off the rails in a sexist/derogatory manner? Bruh you could be the difference in one woman’s life from her feeling the full relatability to this meme.
A thousand good experiences won’t outweigh one bad one, and this meme / discourse proves it. A woman can interact with a thousand good men, and all it takes is one fucking rapist and now all men are evil, all men are untrustworthy, all men are literally less dangerous than a wild rabid animal. There’s no point.
Bro are you doing these things to actually make women comfortable and safe around you, or are you doing them so that women treat you nicely? The former is feminist, and the latter is disguised chivalry where women still owe you things for treating them like people. Withholding your support of women unless they tell you what a big strong man good ally you are is not a way to a more equal future, and you can apply this to virtually any minority rights movement.
And if you think women being wary of unknown men is a personal critique, I don’t know what to tell you except that it doesn’t reflect well on you. But it seems like there’s a lot of folks here who missed the point hard and are stepping in it, so you’re in company at least.
The problem is for those of us who go out of our way to make women feel more comfortable and safe in male dominated environments, hearing women treat you with the same disdain as a sex pest just makes you stop giving a shit.
You’re not supposed to be doing it because it gets you good will, changes people’s minds, or changes people’s minds about the behaviors of men generally. With the prevalence of SA, the behavior of certain men, and cultural norms, that shit will probably only occur with both large scale social and socioeconomic change, and probably also with therapy.
No, the reason you’re supposed to be doing it, is because it’s a good thing to do. Anything else is a knock on effect that is honestly lucky if it occurs.
You should “go out of your way” to be a good person, not because of what random people will say about the 50% of the population you happen to fall into.
The problem is for those of us who go out of our way to make women feel more comfortable and safe in male dominated environments, hearing women treat you with the same disdain as a sex pest just makes you stop giving a shit.
Which again, I’m sure has happened with other “women when x occurs” memes as well.
Overall very eye opening. I’ll hold my own doors and stop moderating conversations I guess. Just keeping to my own business.
This entire issue is clearly just another culture war wedge being pushed by right wing think tanks except the target audience absolutely ate this one up as well as the victims.
Bro, honestly, you shouldn’t let a few people arguing about a meme online stop you from respecting the women who are actually in your life.
Door holding for the people behind you is respectful no matter if they’re a man or a woman. I think most people hold the door if they’re paying attention.
But stopping a conversation from going off the rails in a sexist/derogatory manner? Bruh you could be the difference in one woman’s life from her feeling the full relatability to this meme.
A thousand good experiences won’t outweigh one bad one, and this meme / discourse proves it. A woman can interact with a thousand good men, and all it takes is one fucking rapist and now all men are evil, all men are untrustworthy, all men are literally less dangerous than a wild rabid animal. There’s no point.
Bro are you doing these things to actually make women comfortable and safe around you, or are you doing them so that women treat you nicely? The former is feminist, and the latter is disguised chivalry where women still owe you things for treating them like people. Withholding your support of women unless they tell you what a
big strong mangood ally you are is not a way to a more equal future, and you can apply this to virtually any minority rights movement.And if you think women being wary of unknown men is a personal critique, I don’t know what to tell you except that it doesn’t reflect well on you. But it seems like there’s a lot of folks here who missed the point hard and are stepping in it, so you’re in company at least.
“some women made me feel bad, guess it’s time to be a misogynist now :c”
You’re not supposed to be doing it because it gets you good will, changes people’s minds, or changes people’s minds about the behaviors of men generally. With the prevalence of SA, the behavior of certain men, and cultural norms, that shit will probably only occur with both large scale social and socioeconomic change, and probably also with therapy.
No, the reason you’re supposed to be doing it, is because it’s a good thing to do. Anything else is a knock on effect that is honestly lucky if it occurs.
You should “go out of your way” to be a good person, not because of what random people will say about the 50% of the population you happen to fall into.
True, but it still sucks when people blanket insult your gender. It’s reasonable to be angry, I think.