Hey everyone,
The Fedihosting Foundation is looking for a new site-admin for Lemmy.World, to help our busy team. This moderator will help with reviewing and acting on reports, weighing in on user content, and helping foster our local communities while acting as a friendly neighbor to other fediverse instances.
You also DO NOT need to have an account on one of our FHF services but WILL have to create an account after joining. Users from other sites WELCOME!
Benefits:
- You’ll get to work with a great team of passionate kind, goofy individuals from all over the (lemmy) world!
- We have weekly virtual hangouts where we brainstorm new ideas and catch up with each other. Community for us is not just a buzzword.
- We can also provide work and personal references, as we are a registered legal non-profit.
- While not a technical role, you will also gain exposure to best-in-class industry tooling and processes for large-scale hosted applications (aka modern DevOps).
- We also run a small blog, that we’d love to have folks contribute to.
- Join in on the editorial voice for our featured communities.
- We also understand this is a hobby and that family and work come first
- If you’re having a hard time finding time or are busy, we will always do our best to help and support you.
Applicants should have the following qualities:
- Experience moderating a diverse group of individuals from many geographic, religious, and LGBTQ+ backgrounds.
- Able to commit to at least 5-10 hours a week.
- Excellent interpersonal skills and communication.
- Solid background in conflict resolution.
- Must be able to speak English.
- Works well asynchronously with remote teams.
- Grammar skills optional 😛
Bonus skills (which you will learn if you don’t already)
- SQL / Business Intelligence software skills.
- N8N workflow automation
- Web Design (Hugo + GitHub Pages).
- Python scripting
Application process:
- It goes without saying that we will only be considering applicants with a significant positive history of online posts and/or comments, no trolls, please.
- Applicants must be okay with sitting for a video interview and must pass a basic background check.
- While not strictly required, a CV with relevant work and volunteer history will help during the application process.
- We are an international team that works from both North America EST time (-4) and Europe CEST (+2), so we would ask that candidates be flexible with their availability.
Please apply HERE https://forms.gle/epTdTy9Xh9kNFKsQA
(Edit: Updated post, thanks Donuts!)
(Edit2: Thanks for all the feed back on this post, it’s much appreciated 💗💗💗)
(Edit3: If you feel like you’d fit in, apply, the req’s that we posted are more of a suggestion, then a hard yes or no)
Me me me! Ova here!!! Memememememe!
Did I understand that correct that applicants would have to tell their real name?
Yes, of course.
must pass a basic background check.
That’s what made me wonder. Do they just assume applicants use their real name on social media, and when they don’t find anything online the person seems sus?
Do they ask for a police record like companies here would do if they do a basic background check?
I’m not familiar with that term unless you work with critical infrastructure and such, so I assumed they might just want to see some online behaviour from the past years with some proof that applicants have experience as admins.
I offered my informal CV. Lemmy and the Fediverse the largest group I’ve ever offered any service to. My largest group is just over 1,800, but it’s a relatively homogeneous group needing little mod activity. The commuinity is free to comment on my history, stupidity (lol) and bias. I figure it’s fair considering he job app. I’ll offer that I respect and enjoy (even if it’s verbal sparring) the prospect of opposing reasonable views on Lemmy vs the bots, tropes, reposts, and crabs-in-a-bucket karma-whores on Reddit.
Excellent interpersonal skills
Oh well.
I mean, as long as you don’t put fish in the break room microwave, we’re cool…
Dont tell anyone but…
Admins over here wanting mid level job stuff then paying diddly fucking squat…
The pay is the satisfaction of a job well done. It’s like a family. We work hard and we play hard. Make sure to read the company policy on appropriate flair. Don’t miss the meeting to decide how to form the committee for defining the best means of communication between committees for accounting, finance, and those troublemakers from the moderation committee.
Well, we cannot pay folks, but we can offer work references, some neat tech, and to be part of a team that’s trying to make a difference online. (Yes, I get the /s 🙄)
I mean, Lemmy.World doesn’t make enough money from their donations to cover much more than operating costs currently. Operating a site this size is not cheap. Would you prefer to see a ton of advertising and monetization like reddit?
I have heavy doubts they could not afford to pay.
I’m not applying but I have a comment / suggestion:
A pattern I’m seeing here, in activism and open source is that you basically want the full package right now. While I understand that that is what you need, people like that don’t grow on trees.
It would be good if there was a “trainee” position for people to gain the kind of experience you are asking for. And guidance, by you to make sure they learn the right lessons. Possibly including a private-ish best practices handbook or whatever. I know that that means additional work in the short term.
Thanks for reading, all the best wishes!
(Compare to linux’ kernel team asking for kernel devs and the policy of “pick any topic you’d like to work on”. Do I expect a fully course on everything, bringing me from “high school knowledge” to “kernel dev professional”? No, of course not. But a few book recommendations would be great. In that case. Not sure if you can learn moderation from a book.)
It’s not exactly uncommon for a listing to advertise the person they want, but to accept applicants with significantly less on the basis that they can get there. Nearly every job I’ve ever got I was not at the level advertised in something or other.
…do you have any idea how many times I DIDN’T EVEN APPLY because they said “must have X skill”, and I was like “oh…then I better not waste everybodies time.”
Worst case you just get told no. It NEVER hurts to apply. You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
I’ll be honest, I’ve tried it both ways, turns out I’m just useless.
No one is useless 💗
I’d say if you have 80% of the requirements you might as well apply. I would frankly ignore years of experience more or less entirely.
So that’s why employers asks for 18 years of Go and 12 years of Rust experience!
everybodies
everybody’s ?
A pattern I’m seeing here, in activism and open source is that you basically want the full package right now. While I understand that that is what you need, people like that don’t grow on trees
The post-y2k bust removed a lot of our higher-paid staffers, and those were our mentors. For 2-3 generations of new coders we’ve been without that crucial “this is WHY it’s best-practice” understanding from an experienced peer.
When you lament the loss of ready and experienced volunteers, what we lack are people who’ve learned at the side of truly talented people and are ready to take on some projects.
Now we have people with free time and a short history of … Well, it’s work.
What I’m saying is, there’s a clear cause for the current state, for breach after breach after massive breach, and the lack of stellar volunteers.
This will get better, but - as downvotes will show - the current state is one of massive potential but little realization.
When you lament the loss of ready and experienced volunteers, what we lack are people who’ve learned at the side of truly talented people
What I’m actually lamenting isn’t the lack of experienced volunteers.
I’m lamenting the fact that the groups in need lack the awareness that nobody is teaching the stuff they need and that they should do it themselves.
E.g. https://kernelnewbies.org/ I wasn’t kidding when I mentioned them. Their idea of “outreach” is to open the door and wait for people to fall in. They have no teaching material, they have no recommendations. I’m recognizing that there is something happening that is in my interest and I personally would put in the time to learn whatever is necessary to get to the level that is required to seriously touch that code. I just literally don’t know where to start and have no point to connect. There is a https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors mentors program. Not only is their only point of contact a mailing list, if you follow the link, you will find that the mailing list doesn’t actually exist.
My job didn’t even require a video interview, this unpaid role has more strict requirements than half the jobs in the US haha.
Yes, but for your job you’ve given to your employer your ID and your home address. If you mess something up they know ehere to get you. These guys can’t get these warranties and they need to know you better.
I’m glad there’s an effort to avoid weirdos who have our worst interests at heart. Hope some heroes apply and go through the process!
My guess is it’s because it’s a similar role to a Reddit Admin, which is to say they’re basically a global moderator. Also, having access of any kind to the site’s SQL server requires an element of trust. That’s probably why they require the video interview.
Folks that out be brought in would be part of the admin staff and have access to quite a lot. You’re on target with that for sure!
Yep I wish them well but it’s a bit much for a volunteer position
My job didn’t even require a video interview, this unpaid role has more strict requirements than half the jobs in the US haha.
It’s an IT job for a role with big responsibility. Unpaid or not, the role is the role. Filling up the shelves in a grocery store comes with a bit less responsibility.
Thanks for understanding, we’re just trying to be careful 😟
Thank you for being careful.
Thanks for understanding, we’re just trying to be careful 😟
People who complain aren’t the applicants you would have wanted anyway.
My job is also an IT job with big responsibility. I wouldn’t have compared the 2 jobs otherwise. Not sure where you got filling grocery store shelves from.
Lol
I’d be happy to apply, but requiring a CV and full background check in addition to a video call interview is a bit steep for me.
Just the video call I’d absolutely be applying, I genuinely believe in Lemmy and want to see it succeed, but not to the point that I’m willing to put this much information into non-employment hands.
Good luck on the search.
Not trying to tell you what do do (I bet there’s heaps of people that would see it the same way as you)
But it seems kind of odd that people are happy to give a background check to a corporate employer who doesn’t give shit about them (and who they don’t care about or feel any responsibility towards), but wouldn’t do the same for a community org position that necessarily involves more responsibility to the broader community.
So the issue here for me is lack of pay.
Asking me this through straight employment is an agreement that protects both the worker and employer in some capacity.
Asking this through volunteer work makes me uneasy.
I’m completely happy to volunteer my time to an org that I believe in, Lemmy being a ptime example, but not willing to do so in the case of requiring this information up front.
Thanks for the feedback, we only ask for a CV to help the process, but all of us on the admin team are on a first name basis.
We’ve all know each other quite well <3
It says the CV isn’t required.
While not strictly required
Technically true, but verbiage leads me to believe its more required than not.
Technically true, but verbiage leads me to believe its more required than not.
You act like you don’t have any control. This is an unpaid position, so you could provide as little or as much information as feel like, and let them decide if they are comfortable. If this was something I was interested in then I would be willing to do a video chat. After that if I was comfortable, and they also showed serious interest, as a last step provide my full name and likely consent to a basic criminal background check. I would not provide a CV, but would give a some general details of my background related to what they want in the initial email application. That’s how I would do it.
This is just Lemmy.World. You don’t have to be an admin here to help out Lemmy as a whole.
You are correct, but the topic is applying as an admin, so I replied to the topic.
I probably check all the boxes. Currently a cyber security engineer have worked in infrastructure for the last twenty years and currently head up the compliance team of the cyber division of the company I work for, I focused mainly on NIST, CMMC, and SOC II compliance. I’ve modded a few forums and discord servers over the last 20 or so years. There is no way in hell I’m dropping private info on a random google doc that’s open to the public. If there is a more secure way send my info send me a message.
Currently have CyberSecurity degree. I’m finding it difficult to get a job in the field without relevant experience of having a job in the field. How can I get experience to get the job that requires experience?
The Google form results go only to the management team of our parent non-profit, no one else sees the responses. If you feel that this is not secure enough, you can send a secure PGP email to our security disclosure address. We DO provide it for folks that need more security.
I believe you.
I nominate FlyingSquid.
Oh, trying to make me put in an honest day’s work, huh? Okay then, just for that, I nominate BonesOfTheMoon!
I’m woefully under qualified but you and I keep Lemmy hopping.
I’m as unqualified as you, I’m sure. I don’t fit any of the bonus skills and I have no background in conflict resolution. I apparently am a cause of conflict if anything.
Anyway, I don’t think either of us is getting the gig, but I’m glad we both try to make Lemmy a better place.
We really do! We keep it lively.
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Second!
You forgot to tag him?
Wah? Huh? Me? Admin? I don’t know anything about web design or legal compliance or social media marketing or anything. I’m flattered though, thanks.
web design or legal compliance or social media marketing
Fuck all that. It’s not needed.
They need someone with strong reading comprehension, who can consistently reason their way from an ideology to the specific situation, then write professionally. Mods work the collective que of reports independently.
If you don’t want the gig no one one is owed an explanation. But, please don’t judge yourself underqualified for the wrong reasons.
Well apparently I’m not positive or productive, so I guess I’m not qualified after all.
LOL, someone accused me of being “hostile” when I politely disagreed with them. There are some wonderful folks on lemmy…but like any place on the internet, quite a few weirdos.
When I said to consider yourself, you asked me to consider another’s opinion of you that you disagree with.
If you can dish it out then you’ll see right though such bullshit when it regularly pops up in the mod que ;)
Sorry, it’s been a long day.
Right now my landlord isn’t owning a gigantic series of mistakes. You made my day by owning a very small one.
I think this is much more positive and productive than what the other conversation became.
If the long day has been online, I suggest talking to someone about any subject IRL, in person or on the phone. A little human stuff puts all this digital bullshit right back into perspective for me.
I just read through the linked conversation. I’m sorry, but it’s been clearly decided by groupthink that you are not allowed to learn anything or form new opinions. I hope you understand their decision and its effective permanence on your growth.
I knew I was doing Lemmy wrong. Thanks.
Good dude.
You are welcome!..I think, hahaha
If a potential candidate doesn’t understand why there’s a strong vetting process then then don’t understand the changing paradigm of human communication. Teaching that is an unacceptable liability. The OpSec is on point. Great work. And, thank you for everything, including tolerance of those that don’t yet understand why.
You don’t get people with 5 years of experience if no one is willing to give you experience.
There was a line on 3rd rock from the sun that was so relatable to me as a teenager in the 90s.
Tommy, the oldest alien, now trapped in the teenagers body, is trying to get a job at a fast food place. The manager turns him down. And when Tommy asks why, the manager says “I can’t hire you, you have no experience!”
And when Tommy asks how you get experience, the manager says “First you get a job”. Tommy asks how you get a job, and the manager says “You need experience!”
You don’t start a career as a CEO.
Radicals don’t often recruit in public.
You don’t start a career as a CEO.
But they often start as “executives” which is a huge problem.
Very few modern CEOs have ever actually worked a day in their lives. They move around between various different industries with no knowledge of what’s important.
Their only concern is making stock price go up over a short timeframe
I feel like „site admin“ is a bit misleading. Then again, lemmy doesnt have a proper distinction between local and site wide moderators afaik.
I‘d be interested to help with real admin stuff like docker containers, dns and firewalls. Let me know if that interests you.
Honest question; why does this have to be a volunteer role? Is there any room in the Open Collective fund to pay towards renumerating someone for something like this?
Yeah I REALLY doubt they could truly not afford to pay someone at least a bit for something like this. I am a former team member and I get the feeling someone or two are getting paid at least a bit.
At this time, our current budget only provides room for operational costs, such as hosting. We’re all volunteers, even Ruud.
Thank you for answering, and for the work you do. I will increase my donation amount :)
Always appreciated ❤️🙏