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      Hmm, but did they say the last version of Windows, or the last version of Windows you’re going to buy? And if it’s the latter, is the upgrade to Windows 11 free? If yes, then technically it’s still correct.

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          Thank goodness the clouds parted and his holy billionaire visage emerged with the gift of [*angelic chorus] vaccines otherwise we would all be dead now (and he wouldn’t have made a 20 to 1 return on investment). Thank god for billionaires and their unquestionable wisdom.

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        I mean, that was back when if you wanted a home computer, you were building it yourself from parts from Radio Shack. Not exactly the same thing. I’m not certain that even Apple had the Apple 1 out at that point. I know they hadn’t made the Mac 128k, and weren’t going to for several years.

        I haven’t ever met anyone that thought Bill Gates was prescient, just a lucky businessman.

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          The joke being that he didn’t actually say it, same as Microsoft never stating 10 being the last version of Windows ever

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      I 'member.

      Twas Dickity 14 or so, and I plan to make good on Microsofts words.

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      They never actually said this. Some MS Engineer did and the press ran with it.

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        And even that engineer only said “last” to mean “latest”, which is obvious from context, but why let that get in the way of clickbaity articles.

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          It happens a lot by german talking people. Latest and last are the same word here

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            He was asked what they are working on now that they released Windows 10. He said they are still working on Windows 10 as it’s the last (latest) release of Windows and still being developed. Yes he could have worded it better.

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    I like all the comments ready to take a fisting in the ass from Microsoft just to keep Windows 10.

    If you raised a fucking stink instead of taking this shitty deal, they may be forced to keep supporting it for free anyway like they did with Windows 7.

    They’ve really got you guys cowed into paying for the convenience of getting fucked, don’t they?

    This is a company with a market cap of $3.04 trillion and you guys are just gonna bend over and take it for $30 bucks? Wew lad. They don’t need your fucking thirty dollars, and you fucking know it. It’s a god damned shakedown.

    Microsoft: Wouldn’t it be a shame if your computer was somehow insecure and got hacked?

    Sounds like a Mafioso showing up for protection money to me.

    EDIT: There’s still about 700 million Windows 10 PC’s still on the market. If every single existing Windows 10 machine paid for this service, Microsoft would make $21 billion dollars off this alone. It’s a shakedown, do the fucking math. (700,000,000 x $30 = $21,000,000,000)

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      Microsoft: heh heh heh, looks like you’ll be paying me $30 for that windows 10 installation.

      Me: Bitch, I’m on Windows 7, and keep ignoring the OS bitching at me to turn the firewall on!

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            To be fair, that really depends what you use your PC for. Looking at youtube without a profile, and reddit and the news, playing music, offline games. You will be 100% fine. If you have to log into somewhere with sensitive data, don’t. But as a secondary device you PROBABLY will be fine. Requires significant discipline, to not accidentally log into facebook on it though.

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              Me not logging into facebook doesn’t require discipline. I haven’t done it in…

              checks time

              …ever.

              Now, I DO log into government nuke code websites. And I also check Burger King’s website. Just to see if they still sell burgers.

              As of last week…they do!

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                See for exaple the fact wheter you ‘have’ to have facebook kinda locates you as an American. This is the issue with ‘sensitive’ data you may or may not know what it is.

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              Why are people on your LAN exploiting vulnerabilities on your computer? Don’t you also have a network firewall and NAT?

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                The biggest danger isn’t viruses sneaking their way in, it’s from the web browser and email client.

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      It would make sense if Microsoft was liable for any security faults. I’d actually pay for something like that but of course you’re probably paying for some nebulous promise of something between security at best effort basis and whatever they feel like.

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      What an idiotic perspective. Microsoft has supported W10 for literally 12 years at the cutoff date. Show me another software product that receives TWELVE YEARS worth of free support. 30 bucks is fair enough. For enterprises this is play money, if you are a private, you could upgrade fucking 7 keys. Which means, you didn’t need to pay a fucking cent to MS since 2007. No one has ever matched this kinda support. Ten percent of this is considered fucking generous.

      And herre is a thought for you. The reason why windows is full of adware and spyware is precisely because of dickheads, who won’t pay 30 fucking dollars EVERY TWENTY YEARS. This is your fault.

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    Considering that when people paid $100 for that OS they were told that it would be the “last Windows to be released”, shouldn’t there be a class action lawsuit?

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      They weren’t told that, that was an off-hand comment by an employee (not even a spokesperson) that the media took and ran with. Source:

      Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10.

      I think they meant “latest” not “last.”

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        For what it’s worth

        “Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”

        https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

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          Windows will be delivered as a service

          Which is largely true, there have been a number of “service packs” that were released as regular updates throughout the Windows 10 lifespan. So it definitely seems they want people to not think about the specific Windows version they’re on. From that article:

          Microsoft could opt for Windows 11 or Windows 12 in future, but if people upgrade to Windows 10 and the regular updates do the trick then everyone will just settle for just “Windows” without even worrying about the version number.

          Windows 7, for example, had one major service pack, with a few isolated updates, whereas Windows 10 had a major update about every 6 months, and each one of those checkpoints was supported for about a year and a half. The final update was at the end of 2022, and it’s support runs 3 years.

          So yeah, I think they met what they said, but the messaging wasn’t particularly clear how long that support would be provided for.

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    Wait. They want me to pay for something I already paid for?

    Well guess my $2.5k new windowless machine is looking better everyday.

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        Oh yeah. Windows XP Professional 64 bit. Each “upgrade” used the same license and never really got screwy until 10. Won’t go to 11.

        Edit: Actually I don’t think I even paid for that, I think it was an OEM license my dad got from his work.

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        You know what’s shocking? I did. I ruined my desktop trying to set it up with some web server functions and wiping it somehow got rid of the license.

        And so I paid to get rid of the watermark… boo!

        There you go one last scary story for the season.

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        See below: I started my machine off with an XP Professional 64bit license (I didn’t personally buy) in like 2006?

        Because I kept the key for… Oh god 18 years, I always had the windows Pro versions. Windows 7 64 pro, Windows 8.1 Pro, and Windows 10 Pro.

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          What are you complaining about then?

          They supported your hardware for 18 years even when it was only meant to be for a single OS version and now people still had the option of upgrading but the hardware is just too goddamn old. I’m not defending Microsoft I also think the requirements are too high for 11, but expecting even more from your key is just ridiculous.

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      Better yet: you don’t have to pay Microsoft at all to make the switch!

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        I’m really surprised they haven’t managed to push Azure Linux into the fold. Release a desktop version, Find some way to make attractive for all those Windows 10 people ready to walk away. Then just slowly fold all the bullshit back in. They could even bring the gui completely Windows 10esque

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          The problem with that would be that it would make switching to another linux ditribution very, very easy. They would have 99.99% compatibility so a lot of people would switch to another distro if they add stuff like recall.

          They would also be opening the can of worms that is massive software support for linux (which is arguably already opening.)