• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    I was on ml and it was pretty chill for a non-tankie. Until a mod powertripped and ban me for insulting an homophobe. Some people like me join the instance without knowing of all this tankie thing. IMO, hexbear is far more toxic.

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      22 days ago

      IMO, hexbear is far more toxic.

      That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. .ml is mostly OK 75% of the times. Hexbear is a cesspool always

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      22 days ago

      Hexbear has some users with strong Linux and tech knowledge. That’s why I still haven’t blocked the instance.

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      22 days ago

      The only bans I saw on your account were for being needlessly hostile- and they look like they all were extremely short.

      Re: the homophobic comments, in your posts that got removed you were hostile for what looks to me like your misinterpreting a bad attempt at a bad joke (not even from .ml user, but .ee), though you didn’t tell them to kys that time at least. You then went through the their profile responding to months old posts to try to continue things, again being needlessly hostile- if I had to venture a guess that was more of the reason for your ban 5 months ago. Plenty of other instances will also temp ban for behavior like that.

      and then 8 months ago you dropped this gem: CW self harm, transphobia

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      The accusations of toxicity seem to be projection.

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        22 days ago

        CW self harm, transphobia

        Bullshit.
        Why don’t you show the context?

        The user bullied me for being gay. He’s the one who went into my history and saw I was a gay dad. He reply to my comment about the fact that I love my daughter with the reply “You’re gay”. Then mods like you told me it was a "bad joke’ remove my post and let the douche’s post up.

        Now I’d like to see where I’ve been transphobe, , I have a trans person really close to me that would probably like to see that but it never happened.

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          22 days ago

          part 2:

          CW self harm, transphobia
          

          Bullshit. Why don’t you show the context?

          Oh here’s the context for the transphobic comment too:

          images:

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          It was in this post about donald trump posting an image of Joe Biden tied up

          You opened up with this, which is pretty clearly trolling.

          Marcie responded with a similarly pointed comment that also got removed for being uncivil.

          thread view:

          Then you dropped your transphobic/kys comment in response to someone saying that Trump could get shot for treason but the democrats will never follow through. This is expressing frustration with liberals who talk a big game but when the chips are down take no action. Not sure what you were trying to accomplish other than being needlessly hostile.

          Worth noting all of this is in the public modlog, anyone can look it up

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            This is just “removed by mod” . I’m not transphobic no matter how hard you want it to be real. Oh, and I actually went to see Chapo in Montreal a couple years back, before I understood who these people are. They kept making joke about how french Canadians are stupid and inferior, to an audience of 90% unilingual white males. Absolutely pathetic, it’s probably on youtube.

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              You asked for the context, click on the spoiler tag if you want to see the removed comment, here’s another link

              I really don’t see how taking a shot at hexbear as being ‘95% guys’ is relevant, or anything other than being intentionally transphobic, but I look forward to your explanation.

              Also I don’t care about shittalking chapo lol, pretty much every time I’ve listened to them (extremely infrequent occurrence) I’ve been annoyed by something.

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                OMG what? It’s the sentence about hexbear being a bunch of dude that’s suppose to be transphobic? I must be stupid because I failed to see how trans people are involved in this. I stand by what I’ve said, Hexbear is filled by a bunch privilege white guys that pretends to represent minorities they know nothing about. It’s where all the chapo community migrated after being banned on reddit, so basically some bros of the socalled dirtbag left and tankies.

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                  4chan level bigotry, shocking.

                  Just editing this in to address the question, yes it is. That’s just being transphobic. If they say they’re trans they’re trans. You do not get to dictate what someone else’s gender is just because you disagree with their politics.

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                    If they say they’re trans they’re trans.

                    Who is supposed to be trans, Hexbear?? Did I miss something?

                    Oh, and I base my judgment on interaction with them, being despised by chapo was just anecdotal, I’m fine don’t worry.

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          I agree that ‘ironic’ homophobia is still homophobia, and should be removed, just like ‘ironic’ misogyny and transphobia.

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          his comment wasn’t ‘You’re gay’, but it was close

          A meme this could be seen as referencing is this

          you responded with this:

          Going into past threads to respond about an unrelated grievance would get you a temp ban in a lot of lemmies, regardless how valid.

          Here’s the transphobic part of the post of yours - the same one in the post above

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          Hexbear has done many surveys at this point of the gender of its users (most recent one linked here) As of this last one cis people are in the minority, I don’t know why you would insert a comment like that if you weren’t trying to be transphobic.

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            22 days ago

            Lol. The joke about shooting “a superiority complex” (3 feet above your head) is encouraging self-harm? This the probably the most told joke about French people ever, it was invented by Belgium. I haven’t met a single person from France that doesn’t find really it funny, and I’ve met more then you ever will. Maybe it doesn’t translate well, but it’s definitely a joke, no ambiguity here. On the other hand a loser calling me “Gay” for loving my daughter it’s clearly humor?? Fuck off lol. I’ve been bullied all my life, I’ve learned to stand up against this kind of “joke”. Maybe I’ve overacted but I will always show my teeth when it involves my daughter and homophobia.

            I still haven’t seen my so-called transphobic comment, why don’t you just quote it?

            BTW, you’re just confirming me that you .ml people are powertripping hardcore. I use to defend the instance but I will now gladly join the bashing. You people suck.

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              This the probably the most told joke about French people ever, it was invented by Belgium.

              I’m not familiar with it, and I doubt many other people reading it got that either. It’s a little ironic that you’re this bent out of shape when other people don’t get your joke but at the same time can’t give other people the same deference.

              I still think removing the homophobic comment -ironic or otherwise- was the right move, however you going into months-old threads to harass them about your current beef was also something begging for moderation.

              I still haven’t seen my so-called transphobic comment, why don’t you just quote it?

              I have, twice now, are you being intentionally obtuse? click on the spoiler tag if you want to see.

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                I’m genuinely shocked that people are upset with what you’re saying. Even if people believe the “95% of you are guys” comment isn’t transphobic and is just weirdly presumptuous, the rest is still pretty icky behavior.

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                  21 days ago

                  It’s the reflexive hostility liberals have towards anyone calling out someone complaining about Hexbear.

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        22 days ago

        I’ve been a victim of stuff like that. It is straight up not cool and a asshole move.

        You are welcome to disagree with me and you can even hate me but at the end of the day harassment is not ok.