A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.
Key takeaway… they sell weed at deli’s in NYC?
That’s interesting. Around here it’s all thru a licensed shop.
You’ve never seen “
How HighHalf Baked?” or any Dave Chappelle stand up?Are you thinking of Half Baked?
Yeah, for some reason I always get those two confused. I knew it wasn’t right.
For some reason your memories of the events are hazy…
Maybe thats what they call weed shops? Or its a weed shop who realized the importance of capitalizing on munchies, and the food got more popular than the pot
In the entire state of NY, not just the city, pretty much every independent gas station or corner store sells D8, black market vapes, gummies, etc. It’s pretty much unenforced statewide
Hows that work? I assume its not on shelves. Do you just need to know the secret menu? Ask for it directly? Is there a code? Or do they treat it like normal merch and cops just ignore it?
Yeah no it’s just chilling there on the front counter behind glass. No prices listed. If you’re a cop they tell you it’s not for sale and it’s a decoration. If a cop is parked outside they put it in a paper bag, tape it, and tell you to not open it until you’re out of view. No proof of sale, no crime committed.
They got Aminita mushroom gummies in the corner stores in Boston! Head shops are also selling vape carts.
No way? Like Muscarine gummies? Now that’s crazy I want some (for science).
If you do it, pay close attention to what’s supposedly inside it. Both muscimol and ibotenic acid are supposed to be hallucinogenic, and both muscimol and ibotenic acid are in fly agric mushrooms. However, muscimol appears to be fairly non-toxic while ibotenic acid is neurotoxic and can cause scarring to the brain (sciencists apparently use it to cause brain lesions in rats for testing purposes). Despite this, from what I’ve seen it’s hard to find edibles that don’t have ibotenic acid.
Also, note that I said “supposedly” a lot. I tried a chocolate bar that supposedly had muscimol in it once. I felt a little odd the first time I tried it, but that was the full extent of my experience (I tried eating half the bar at one point to see if I just have a high natural tolerance, but that had even less of an effect). Additionally, I think I read a company recently got caught selling gummies that were just straight-up psilocybin.
Ah thanks for the info!
Lol, I got some straight up psilocybin gummies all professionally packaged, I had a packaged molly chocolate bar too!
Deli is a loose term, a lot of them are basically bodegas with cold sandwiches.
NY’s legalization process has been a mess. It’s been almost 3 years since it was signed, and the majority of dispensary licenses outside of a small handful of open ones are still in paperwork purgatory, so in the meantime, the grey market has picked up the slack.
Is it still a hate crime if they were wrong about the person’s identity? Imo it should be.
IIRC NY is a transfer of intent state, that is to say if you intended to kill X person but fucked up and killed Y person instead, you’re still guilty of 1st degree murder, because you still intended to do a murder
That’s a cool tidbit to know. What did it have to do with this story? Where did the transfer take place?
Man intended to hate crime a trans woman but was wrong about the woman being trans
Thanks, makes sense now
If you committed a crime because of the perception of an individual falling under a protected class, it should qualify as a hate crime. I believe this is considered a bias incident and it is treated as a hate crime in NYC.
Of course it qualifies as a hate crime. Hate crime legislation is entirely about what you think inside your head as you commit some other crime - hence the word “hate”.
Hate with your head, not with your hands,
otherwise you’ll be picking from commissary plans.It’s not entirely about what you think, it can also be about what any reasonable person might think. You could genuinely think you’re just joking, but if it’s so bad that no one else would reasonably think it was a joke you could still be found guilty.
That is good to hear. Hopefully this cunt will be in prison for a huge chunk of their life.
So in a conversation about someone commiting a hate crime based on someones genetalia you decide to use a term specifically used to debase people by calling them female genetalia and it seems people even upvote you for it. Great. And you even think you are being supportive.
Go back to Facebook.
Don’t be such a cunt.
That word is used as a generic colorful adjectives in the UK, and are considered gender-neutral there.
Ooh la la doth my language offend you so? Please accept my humblest apologies my lord/lady!
look, it’s a word most american women don’t hear directed at themselves outside of really hateful or abusive contexts. i have been called “bitch” in the grocery store. i was called “cunt” by my abuser, and only by him.
the person who challenged you has a good point - the use of that word in american culture is intended to be particularly dehumanizing and degrading to women.
compare - if you had used “n…” you would have likely been challenged there as well, regardless of your intent in using that word or your own identity.
No, no. A cunt has depth and warmth and I don’t think the attacker in this case has either.
This is the best comment I have seen on lemmy so far.
One of my standard two comments on the use of that word.
The other one is about the ability to take a pounding.
Fuckin’ Staten Island.
Hey, some houses have really nice vagina topiaries in Staten island
A sad reminder that transphobia and other forms of hate affect us all, not just the ones who are primarily targeted.
Are you guys over the Atlantic feeling well? Is everything ok?
Staten Island ≠ NYC. Place is a cesspool. And I don’t have a horse in the race, just viewing it from over the border in NJ. Nobody likes Staten Island, it’s filled with aggressive bigots.
Staten Island is literally one of the 5 boroughs of NYC. The city is more than Manhattan. But yes, SI is a cesspool.
We call it east jersey in a mean spirited way, but even Newark was less crazy than some shit I’ve seen in SI
Staten Island is a particularly shit place. We’re ok.
No, it’s really not okay here.
Almost like pointless hate makes the world a bit shitter.
I don’t know, all that hate makes it really easy to point fingers at trans calling them a monster so you can hide wealth as the dragon lord of the land without anyone amassing to look for dragons when there are trans demons to demonize.
HEY! You leave dragons out of this! Most dragons aren’t even all that interested in amassing wealth or power, they’re just avid collectors of anything that grabs their interest. The “greedy dragon” stereotype was based on humans misunderstanding the intentions of a few coin-collecting dragons. They had no interest in wealth or power, to them the coins were like shiny rocks or pressed leaves; but the humans couldn’t understand that and thought they were being greedy, and the humans hated them for it.
Once upon a time if you wanted to see the grandest, most complete collection of coins, stamps, music, 19th century hats or really any other object, you could ask your local dragon. If they’re not collecting the thing you want to see, they probably knew a dragon that does. Nowadays, between greedy humans and anti-dragon bigotry (typically rooted in the “greedy dragon” stereotype), many dragons can no longer afford to keep large, fully complete collections, nor can many handle the social pressure to not appear greedy to humans. This is why so many dragons lash out, are addicts or in poor mental health. They’re having to suppress their own wants and needs just to please the humans who care nothing for them.
Don’t attach dragons to greedy billionaires. Dragons just want everything to be together; billionaires think everything should belong to them.
Jankle and I will put thought to this.
Disagree. Not a bit, a whole lot more shittier.
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A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.
The shocking caught-on-video attack has left Jasmine Adams traumatized, her distress compounded by no arrest being made.
But on Monday, she moved a step closer to possible justice when her lawyer, Robert Brown, filed a discrimination suit in Staten Island Supreme Court against the West Brighton Deli Grocery & Grill.
The suit alleges that Adams, who is bisexual, was attacked because the cashier “perceived plaintiff to be transgender.” The NYPD confirmed Adams provided the same account to police when she reported the incident.
”Even if I was a transvestite, what does that have to do with anything?” asked Adams, 35, who was wearing an Apple watch wristband adorned with pride rainbow colors when she was attacked.
“Why were you so comfortable putting your hands on me? I wasn’t being aggressive. I didn’t have any weapon. I was a customer.”
The worker has been fired, but the store, on Henderson Ave. near Campbell Ave., has not cooperated in helping to identify him, police said.
Brown said cops dropped the ball by failing to release the video to the media, as they often do when it is trying to identify and locate a suspect, and by conducting just one cursory phone interview with the victim. The Hate Crime Task Force is involved in the case, police said, but Brown noted that no investigator from that unit has contacted Adams.
Adams, a mother of two who manages a home for disabled adults, stopped at the grocery to buy marijuana for a friend around 11:30 p.m. July 28. The West Brighton Deli Grocery where assault Victim 35yr old Jasmine Adams, seated inside the Offices of her Attorney, Robert Brown, talks to the News about her ordeal suffered by the hands of an employee inside the West Brighton Deli Grocery Bodega in Staten Island. Friday October 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne)
Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News The West Brighton Deli Grocery & Grill where Jasmine Adams was attacked. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Weed has been legal in the city since 2021 but so far, there are currently only nine dispensaries in New York City licensed to sell marijuana. Hundreds of other shops nonetheless sell pot products.
Because she’s not a smoker, Adams had her friend on the phone as she made the $40 purchase, asking questions to make sure she was making the right choice. The clerk mistook her conversation as an attempt to haggle for a lower price.
“I said it wasn’t about the price and that I was just trying to figure out what I was buying,” Adams said. “So I paid. But he sucked his teeth and got mad and me and threw [the marijuana packet] on the floor.” Cellphone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega. Cell phone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega.
An insulted Adams opted not to pick the weed up off the floor and asked for her money back.
“He said I was trying to get him fired and that he was going to call the cops,” she recounted. “I said, ‘Call the cops! I just want my money back.’ Then I heard him call me a transvestite. I’m like, ‘Transvestite? I’m a whole female. I have lady parts.'” Cellphone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega. Cellphone footage shows Jasmine Adams being dragged out of Staten Island bodega.
The next moments were a blur.
Before she could duck, the attacker maced her in the face, she said, then ran around the counter toward her. Barely able to see, she remembered grabbing a coffee pot and swinging it at him.
She doesn’t know if she hit him, but he grabbed her by her long hair.
As she was being pulled from the store, called a “b—h” and dragged down three concrete steps, several young people were outside recording on their smartphones, some reacting in shock to the assault.
“Oh, my God!” one woman can be heard yelling in video obtained by the Daily News.
“You don’t have to do all that,” another person says.
The worker threw her to the concrete and kicked her in the head, the video shows.
“Next thing I know when I opened my eyes, I was outside next to my car on the floor,” Adams said. “I said to myself that I gotta get outta here because I don’t know if he’s going to kill me.” Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Adams somehow drove off in her car but stopped about a block later and flagged down a couple she did not know, getting their help taking her home. Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Adams says she feared for her life during the attack. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.
Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so.
Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.” Jasmine Adams is pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Strangers helped Adams get home after the attack. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Adams, who was bruised and cut as she was dragged and kicked, didn’t realize video of the attack was on Facebook until she was alerted by a co-worker. She showed it to her mom, who cried but didn’t watch it herself until recently.
“I tried to suppress what happened,” Adams said. “It makes you feel vulnerable. I like to believe that I’m a strong woman. To me, I wasn’t so strong. It makes me feel weak.”
As crime victims often do, Adams has blamed herself for being out that late and for not just leaving the store after the clerk flung the marijuana to the ground. Her friends have tried to convince her she had every right to stand up for herself.
“But part of me still blames myself,” she said. Jasmine Adams and her attorney Robert Brown are pictured in Staten Island on Friday, Oct. 6, 2023. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News Adams and her attorney Robert Brown on Friday. (Theodore Parisienne for New York Daily News)
Workers at the store told The News they remembered the incident but referred all questions to a manager, who ignored requests for comment.
Adams turned to her pillars of strength, her mother and grandmother, before deciding to file a suit.
“They said that what happened to you is not right and that you need to let everyone know that,” Adams said. “For me, it’s not about the money. Whatever my sexual preference is, it shouldn’t be questioned when I walk in the store.”
This is good reporting as by the sounds of it the cops had little interest in pursuing anything
Sounds like the cops need to be sued too
Staten Island is where the cops live. That’s their turf. They want her to know she isn’t welcome or safe there.
Thank you!
The worker has been fired, but the store, on Henderson Ave. near Campbell Ave., has not cooperated in helping to identify him, police said.
The best way to get the owner of the store to cooperate is to charge him/her with the crime itself. If you want to avoid it, then turn in the perpretrator.
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What does the pot have to do with someone being a hateful idiot? I’m not sure what the headline is trying to tell me
Article says it’s legal, but there’s very few dispensaries…
This was at a bodega, so likely an illegal sale in a legal state?
That’s the only way I can see it being relevant, but I don’t know why NY’s law are like. Maybe it was a legal sale?
That would also explain why the clerk freaked out. Obviously he’s a transphobe as well, but maybe he knew he was breaking the law and got nervous she was on the phone? The victim might not have even known it was an illegal sale, and didn’t make a purchase anyways.
Yes, commit felony assault and a potential felony hate crime because you’re worried about a misdemeanor charge.
Either way, this guy is a fucking idiot
Oh for sure, if it was an illegal sale it makes him more of an idiot, not less.
She looks like a trans and she smokes the pot! She deserved it!
/s if not obvious enough
Not the point the (honestly fucking terrible) article was making, but this never would have happened at a formal dispensary. NY needs to get its shit together. They’ve created a system where the poor are still stuck in a dangerous illegal system while those with time and money to get across the city get to enjoy a safe and comfortable experience. My city of ~160k in the Midwest has more legal dispensaries than NYC. Answering detailed questions is part of it, and I guarantee that at least my dispensary is a safe space for trans people.
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When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.
Cops will move heaven and earth to not prosecute the criminals they like. Especially corrupt racist-ass NYPD.
That’s fucking vile.
Summarizing my other reply, but cops often literally don’t have legal jurisdiction outside of their presinct. This is normal and is state/federal law, not the cop’s decision
Police in other states don’t usually force the victim to relocate. They usually call someone to come in from the proper precinct.
They should still be obligated to record and pass on the details of the crime, and get the citizen in contact with the correct people directly. Recording and reporting crime and inter-police communication is kinda their whole fucken job.
Cops don’t wanna work anymore.
If they wanted to work they wouldn’t be cops
To be perfectly fair, cops often literally don’t have jurisdiction outside of their “home” precinct. If they witness a crime outside of their jurisdiction they can make a citizen’s arrest, or if they’re in pursuit of someone who started in their jurisdiction they can chase, but they legally can’t do anything otherwise.
To be perfectly fair, you’re wrong.
If they came to her home, reasonably she was wanting to file a police report. Which they absolutely can do, but they refused.
Cops have authority anywhere in the state, which is why they can be brought in from surrounding areas for special events, riots and other incidents, and can arrest you off-duty if they witness something illegal.
They literally don’t have de-facto jurisdiction over an entire state. This is easily googlable. Additionally, I addressed doing citizen’s arrest already, which is what them doing an “off duty” arrest is.
A police officer may arrest a person for a crime, pursuant to subdivision one, whether or not such crime was committed within the geographical area of such police officer’s employment, and he or she may make such arrest within the state, regardless of the situs of the commission of the crime.
Kinda sounds like yes they can. Besides, all this person tried to do was file a report. What you’re seeing here is that cops don’t feel like doing any part of the job that doesn’t involve LARPing a 90s action film.
“Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so.”
"Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.”’
JFC
Not just the ones they don’t like. They’re corrupt and lazy. They don’t go after any more than they have to.
Wow, that was a pretty insane sentence…
This is the consequence of the hatred that transphobes, garden variety conservatives and TERFs alike, have stoked. And the narrative that the media has gleefully ran with.
Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays is genuinely scary in a way I think a lot of people don’t fully understand. And of course when femininity is being policed, women of colour tend to suffer too, even if they are cisgender.
They’ve also been stoking the “Black women look trans” narrative for a while, especially focused on Michelle Obama. I listen to Knowldge Fight so I’ve heard so many disgusting Alex Jones clips of him calling her Mike.
They know. That’s why they do it. Most of them remember the days when it was the same for gay men.
When you’re so anti-trans you loop around and become anti-cis.
I think these people might just be anti-women.
Racism, Misogyny and transphobia have always come from a similar place and build off of each other. Bigots will always ally with other bigots, as this hatred is not rational and only someone with similarly irrational hate could support you. Dig enough in bigoted communities and you are certain to find all different kinds of hatred. That’s why TERF communities are infested with homophobia, misogyny, racism, antisemitism and Islamophobia. Over time the concentration of white supremacy and nazism has grown exponentially in terf communities. Nazis share many of the same goals and many of the same conspiracies that terfs do. And prominent terfs like Kelly Jay Keen openly ally with Christian white nationalists around the world.
I’d argue that the TERF perspective is fundamentally anti-male rather than (or maybe in addition to) misogynistic.
The specific position TERFs hold that makes them TERFs is that you cannot become a woman if you weren’t born one and that women should be granted certain special protections and spaces of their own, kept free from men.
That’s why TERFs ALWAYS frame trans issues in the form of men dressing up as women to infiltrate women’s spaces and women’s services. They could give a shit about trans men, it’s all trans women because trans women are the ones using things that in their eyes should be the sole provenance of “real” women.
DING DING DING. They can “get away with” hating trans women more easily, but it’s just a stepping stone on the way to Gilead for them.
I feel we need to change that little children’s rhyme to be a bit more accurate
“Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can lead to pogroms” or something like that
I’ve always been partial to “sticks and stones may break my bones but words can really hurt me”.
Sticks and stone may break my bones, but words will hurt forever
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but will make me gut ya.
“Pen is mightier than sword” expresses this idea already.
Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays
And she’s neither of those things anyhow. She will find out the guy’s name & address in Discovery & he will go to prison for hate crime + assault.
The instigators responsible will keep getting away with it. They’re very careful to use the right dog whistles and key words to avoid getting deplatformed and they still cause their followers to act like this.
Oh that sounds like a perfectly normal reaction to someone different from you
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She is pretty ugly…pot so good, make you want to slap yo custamuhs
Wait, this is being called a misunderstanding? I don’t think whoever wrote that actually understands that word…
The misunderstanding was what started the fight (he thought she was haggling for prices, not that she was trying to verify the price of things to make sure she bought the right weed for her friend), not the transphobic attack.
I still don’t see how that misunderstanding leads to such a violent attack.
If you (mistakenly) think someone is trying to haggle with you, the correct response is “ma’am we don’t haggle here, the price is the price, pay or get out”
At what point does “she tried to haggle with me!” become an excuse for “so I bashed her face in”
We’re getting physical with people for haggling prices now? Canal street about to get wild.
