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    Imagine being the model. Alright, you look amazing. Now drop your pants and pretend to take a shit. Yeah thats it, just a hundred more photos in different lighting. Perfect, thats the one we upload to the internet

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    While I’m here, everyone, please get your flu and COVID shots this winter, vaccines work, so don’t get sick, and don’t get other people sick.

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      Yeah… For people saying COVID is “just the flu”, I had a friend who ended up in hospital with COVID… When I got covid and thought I may have spread it to her (fortunately she got lucky and somehow didn’t get it) , she pretty much started prepacking for hospital.

      It’s still a super serious virus, same as the real flu…

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        I know four people who ended up in the hospital from COVID, one in a medically induced coma for a couple of weeks. All except one of them is in their 30’s or 40’s and in good physical condition, the exception is a friend’s young child who is in the ICU right now and they’re not sure she’ll survive…

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      I’ll get my flu shot once my cold mostly resolves. My entire face feels like it’s about to sneeze 24/7 and it’s like a personal hell

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      While I’m here, everyone, please get your flu and COVID shots this winter, vaccines work, so don’t get sick, and don’t get other people sick.

      How? as it has been demonstrated that it does not protect against transmission?

      But take your shots please.

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        Anti vaxxers need your own island. You’d… “sort yourselves out”… in about 10 years.

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          Strange, so you are protected, you would apparently protect from transmitting too SO why unvaxxed to COVID (not antivaxx, little schmug) would have to isolate on an island?

          you see how crazy you are?

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            Not everyone who wants to be vaccinated against covid can be vaccinated.

            And not everyone who is vaccinated can receive the full benefits of vaccination due to being immunocompromised.

            As someone who gets a Hep B vaccine every single year, I do what I can to protect myself, but my body is incapable of producing antibodies long term, it’s because of an autoimmune condition, not because the vaccine isn’t widely effective. I’m always going to be more susceptible to it (and I work in healthcare so I have to keep getting the vaccine). I’m lucky I only have this issue with hep b, my other vaccines seem to have “taken”, but I’m not alone, there are many people out there that have this issue with various vaccines.

            My cousin had an anaphylactic reaction to the flu vaccine a few years ago, he can’t take it again. He’s in a vulnerable position because he has a trachy, so his airways don’t have as much natural protection. He has to trust that his co-workers will stay away from him if they catch the flu, because he can’t get vaccinated even though he wants and needs to.

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        It does reduce transmission it just doesn’t reduce it to 0%. Life is not so black and white.

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        Would’ve been better to say something like: Don’t get as sick and potentially die when you do catch one or both of these viruses. Also stay home when you’re sick.

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        It does technically reduce transmission potential, though indirectly.

        If you do contract covid or the flu after having been vaccinated, you are less likely to have severe symptoms, including coughing and sneezing. If you’re not coughing up a lung all over the place, you’re not spreading as much as someone who is hocking loogeys over everyone else.

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          Except everyone I know who got the shot has gotten sick way more frequently then those who didn’t. That’s backed up by the data that shows the shots give an initial boost in immunity, but slow negative effectiveness long term

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      I highly recommend staggering them though. I did them both together last year and felt so sick that I had to take a day off of work (still better than COVID or Flu). This year, I had a COVID booster and I’m getting a flu shot Monday. The COVID shot did nothing to me but give me a sore arm and flu shots never do anything.

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      I just went to sign up for my covid shot and it asked me to update my insurance information. I have no fucking answers for them so I stopped filling out the form.

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      Also get your dogs rabies vaccines! We are getting dangerously close to having less than 80% of the dogs in the US vaccinated. This will cause pockets of disease in your pets.

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    That science lady’s just pretending. She’s sitting there making breakfast. I can see the glass of orange juice in front of her, and pancake batter in the red bowl. Science is a liar sometimes!

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    The tags should be switched for the images. Vaccine scientists let us all down. Don’t think I’ll ever trust vaccines ever again.

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    Well the top picture clearly doesn’t represent the 3rd phase of trials, as there wasn’t one when the COVID vaccine was mandated lol

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      Why do you need a 3rd ühase of trials in a pandemic? Do you also not wash your hands after pissing and shitting? There hasnt been a trial for that.
      Which source told you that medicine isnt safe if it doesnt get 3 trials?
      No homeopathy ever goes to trials.
      Your painkillers didnt get 3 trials.

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        Right because injections and washing your hands are comparable.

        The “source that told me” was a bit of critical thought and common sense. This was a vaccine with tech we’ve never used on massive populations before, pushed by political leaders, followed by media outlets and gov leaders trying to paint everyone who questions it as if they’re the worst people humanity has to offer. Ofc we need extensive trials for a vaccine like that (or any vaccine), especially when the producers of the vaccine are immune from liability.

        Do you remember what informed consent is? If you’re injecting stuff into you, without fully understanding what either the virus itself can do, or what the vaccine can do, you’re just blindly following people.

        It’s this same mentality and confusion that lead to our current opioid pandemic. Blind trust in our institutions and leaders

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          So your source is no source. You think you’re smarter than science. Gotcha. You apparently don’t know that mrna is in use since 2001… But youre smarter than everyone else.

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            You asked me what source I need to want full trials for a vaccine. You have the wit of a teenager.

            mRNA hasn’t been used in a vaccine like this before.

            30 years in the scheme of things is still absolutely nothing. We had lead in our gasoline and our drinking water pipes for decades without anyone actually understanding the issue, and just trusting “it’s all safe!”

            Virus comes out and we pump out a fully produced vaccine in MONTHS. Of course it’s safe and tested fully /s

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              You’re just proving how little your critical thinking and common sense is worth. My guy… Modern vaccines as injections are only around 100 years old. 30 years is a third to a fourth of that time. That isnt relatively new. 30 years is an eternity.
              Sars cov 1 is a thing that was succesfully vaccinated against and sars cov 2 is a variant that shares many things with 1.

              I also asked you what sources you have that support your argument that vaccines need a 3rd trial.
              You answer was “it came to me in a dream/i pulled it out of my ass” you have the wit of a sockhamster.

              Billions of people have the vaccine and a booster. It’s been more than 3 years. No long term negatives. You’re just dumb and contrarian for the sake of it.

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        My office, for one. But you prolly mean by government. Crossing the border in Canada led to the trucker thing. To be clear, I got my third booster last month. I’m pro-vax.

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          Whenever someone just straight up lies about vaccines and the responses to vaccines, they always need to bring up how they’re all vaccinated and pro-vaccine.

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            Nothing I said was a lie. I named two examples of vax mandates. My 24 person company in the Bay Area, where we’re dominated by liberalism (whereas I’m a leftist). And the trucker convoys as a result of a mandate to cross the border. The first, you have no way to verify or disprove (although we were so disorganized that actual proof was never sought; it was a stated policy before we came back to the office in summer of 2021. The second, you’d have to have been in a news blackout to miss. I don’t understand your comment.

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              Work requirements are not mandates. People at the industrial half of the place where I work (I’m in the office) have to wear safety goggles. They aren’t mandated to wear safety goggles. The government isn’t forcing them to wear safety goggles. They just have to do that as a work requirement. No one forced you to get vaccinated just like no one is forcing them to wear goggles. That doesn’t mean choices don’t have consequences.

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                I qualified my statement as “not gov” and then followed up with a gov example. You’re arguing in bad faith. Anyway, I’m done with this thread. Hope you have a nice day.

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        Airplanes, trains, boats, gov employees, public service workers, private corp employees (based on gov advice - mostly office workers and sports players), all forms of healthcare workers, schools, immigrants, and military to name a few.

        But most of it has been repealed now thankfully

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          Wasn’t mandated enough places obviously. Your dipshit view of what freedom is gives you zero right to potentially kill people with your fucked up negligence and I’m really fucking tired of morons arguing this dumbfuckery

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            Why do you think all of those places repealed their mandates?

            Was it because not having the vaccine killed people?

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              Because idiots like you spread misinformation to the point people were being assaulted over it AND simply wearing face masks

              Not having the vaccine killed and continues to kill people. Not getting the vaccine is fucking stupid

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                Having recovered from COVID while following quarantine procedures is just as good as having the vax - if not better. No?

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                  No.

                  Having it can lead to long term damage (lungs, heart, etc.) even if you survive and mostly recover.

                  Early on they were able to show that people who got the 2 dose initial vaccine showed protection longer than those that were sick with COVID. Again, without the risk of long term organ/system damage.

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                  NO.

                  In fact you might suffer long COVID symptom which vaccinated people that avoided covid don’t have to .

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              Who “repealed” anything? Laws are repealed. This was never law. Some organizations stopped requiring it because most people aren’t this type of moron and just got the fucking vaccine, and people like you made it too difficult to continue to be required. So yeah, you sort of got your moronic wish. People of course died for it but that’s their problem right?

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                If the government mandates something, it has the same weight as a law.

                Those orgs that don’t require it anymore, didn’t drop it because “most people aren’t this type of moron and just got the fucking vaccine”

                It was because we had more data, and you have to weigh the risks.

                It’s still hard to say what the long term effects of either vaxxed or un-vaxxed will be

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                  If the government mandates something, it has the same weight as a law.

                  No it doesn’t. I don’t think this happened at all except with govt as an employer. You morons could just get a new job.

                  it’s hard to say

                  It’s actually very easy to say. The vaccine complication rate is near zero and not a single harebrained theory you idiots had has panned out. Try again

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        Tons of places, and Biden tried nationally but thankfully the supreme Court shut him down

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    I’m glad I got my OTA covid update with the recent emergency broadcast, cellphones definitely ON! Vaccine fully activated

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    For my part, I was listening to a doctor McCullough testifying in front of a senate committee. Talking slowly, calmly with experience and common sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM

    I never seen the so called expert defending the vaccine who was not treating me like a dumb and a potential assassin.

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    I dont care for how this meme seems to be shitting on toilet research. Not defending the anti-vaxer but you can learn quite a bit while on the toilet

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    Odd that the people who question vaccines are the same people who don’t question the medicines they put into their mouths when they get sick. Do they know that vaccines and medicines are researched and manufactured in a similar way?

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      • strange that people forgot about H1N1 vaccine that they should rush on the first experimental shit - created 3 month after first chinese cases).
      • strange that people doesn’t get that the vaccine campaign started when the virus were not anymore as strong and the deaths were already reducing.
      • strange that people can’t read stats and demographics, why injecting our kids?!
      • strange that people doesn’t think that the lack of early support could lead to stronger illness development if not, death.

      my friend got Covid (alpha), it was pretty bad but he also got nothing as treatment, just basic painkiller and O2, nothing else. Fortunately for him, he was in his mid 40 and strong, “just” ended up with a hole in his lungs due to excessive O2.

      AND Finally, the binary vision that people against Vaxzevria and co are against vaccines is highly infuriating to me. Get you shot and leave me alone.

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        So which courses did you find most impactful on that view while studying immunology? Or do you already work in bleeding-edge vaccine research?

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        Strange that people think that the COVID-19 vaccine is “rushed” (it is not, the technology is 30 years old), when many other drugs were also rushed. Strange that most drugs have side effects but people only question when it is the vaccines that show it. Strange that the same people never question chemotherapy. Strange that they also don’t question the potential of addiction from painkillers and opioid-based medicines despite overprescription leading to opioid epidemic in the United States. The same people would also probably demand for antibiotics on common flu, even though antibiotics only work on bacterial infections, and not on viral ones such as the common cold, which is now resulting to concern of evolution of antibiotic-resistant diseases.

        It is though people prefer the comfort of therapeutic medicines, even if the efficacy is little or perceived, and regardless of side effects, instead of the feverish side effects that vaccines could give despite the overall benefits outweighing the risk of getting full blown sickness without taking it. It is though people are myopic, hedonistic creatures of comfort who would forgo long term safety for short term convenience.

        I really doubt we’d survive in the next 100 years.

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          People (idiots) prefer therapeutic to preventative because of shitty/misattributed confirmation bias. If they get the shots and don’t get sick, it’s not because of the shots, it’s because they weren’t ever going to get sick anyway. If they get sick, take something, and get better, it’s because of whatever they took. They can’t see the vaccine helping them, so it isn’t happening, and if it isn’t happening, then it’s worthless, and if it’s worthless but someone’s trying to “make” you take it anyway, it’s cause they have an ulterior motive.

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            Additionally, antivaxxers group all vaccines as if they’re all the same. “The vaccine on malaria didn’t work? The vaccine on polio must be the same”. But they would not apply the same incorrect conclusion to medicine. “Oh the immunotherapy on cancer didn’t work. I will take painkillers to ease the pain at least”. Medicines and vaccines are not all the same and this doesn’t register to many.

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        Strange how you apparently never thought to ask yourself “what if I’m wrong and the entire medical field is right?”

        The lies you’re spreading kill people. This essentially makes you a murderer. Great job spreading vaccine misinformation. There’s a special place in hell for people like you.

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      They probably should question them. Even something as seemingly benign as Paracetamol is not without its issues if used too often, or after alcohol. It can do serious harm. Most medicine can.

      Another fun medicine fact. Australia banned the sale of pseudoephedrine from store shelves quite some years ago to try and reduce domestic amphetamine production. Ever since, all of the major pharma brands have sold phenylephrine based cold and flu medicine as a replacement. Our Therapeutic Goods Administration recently found that this preparation is no better than placebo. We’re talking about a billion dollar industry that has been knowingly selling snake oil for ten years.

      I guess what I’m saying is a healthy dose of skepticism and knowledge seeking should be applied to anything you are putting in your body or exchanging money for. The pharmaceutical industry are not saints. They’re just as driven by profit incentives as every other business.

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        This ^. There are so many medications out there that either do nothing, or the side effects are worse than what they’re treating. Pay attention to what you’re taking, and look into everything. The Pharma industry is about money. That’s it. Money. They don’t care about making you better, they care about what kind of profit they can make off of a new drug. There’s not a single pharma company that can be trusted. And this isn’t only drugs that they are more worried about making money on, vaccines too. You don’t really think the pharma companies came out with a COVID vaccine because it was best for humanity do you? They knew the government would pay whatever they asked for the vaccines, so they pushed them out as fast as they could. Work/doesn’t work? Doesn’t matter, as long as they made a profit.

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          Add statins to your list. After taking statins for 10 years, statistically, you can expect to live 1 day longer. But until death, you’re likely to experience crippling side effects.

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    Fortunately, survival of the fittest and anti vaxxers love things like those anti-5g pendants… Many of which are radioactive