• Dog@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    While I understand people hate cars, I wish I had a car when I was carrying a laser printer 3 miles home. My arms are still sore (and I did it on Tuesday, the 24th of October). No, a bike nor an Uber/Lyft were an option.

    Edit: I could’ve sworn I made myself perfectly clear. I was wrong. So this edit goes out to the people that don’t see it how I’m seeing it.

    I don’t have money, I don’t make money, so I couldn’t get an Uber/Lyft/Taxi (Not to mention that we don’t have taxis where I live). I ruled a bike out as an option as I CANNOT take a bike onto a school bus, so I can get to school. Now, one person may say “well, how did you afford a printer then?” It was $12 (USD) for a color laser printer. Sure you could say that Uber/Lyft only charges x amount per mile, but as I impulsively bought that printer, I had no money left over. Also, to the people who suggest I either

    a) Have a cart. b) Use a Wheelbarrow. c) “Use” (otherwise known as steal) a shopping cart. or … d) Delivery.

    Picture this, how would I have known that I was going to be buying that printer on that day? Most of the thrift shops around me don’t have anything that I would usually purchase. There was no chance I would have access to any of those around me, I’d rather not steal something, and I’m pretty sure thrift shops don’t offer delivery services.

    While I understand all of your points, I would believe you would understand mine. If I didn’t take a school bus to school, maybe it’d be different. I could bike, you’re absolutely right, but as I’ve never biked to school before, I wouldn’t be able to do anything until I do that first. Also, my bike doesn’t have anything where I can hold the printer, so it’d be a catch 22. Yeah, I can buy something for it, but again, how was I supposed to know that I was gonna be picking up the printer on that day? I just happened to stop by my local thrift store, and I saw it in there.

    While I get this community is meant for people who don’t like cars, sometimes that’s what people think of to move things around. It may not be the best solution, but at least it would’ve been an easy solution for me to just get my newly acquired printer home without killing my arms in the process.

    If you still have more questions, comment ig. Idk anymore.

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      11 months ago

      Cargo bikes need to become more common. It would have easily carried a laser printer … and a second laser printer … and your groceries for the week … and a kitchen appliance.

      Edit: Here are the examples from the Not Just Bikes video on cargo bikes:

      https://youtu.be/rQhzEnWCgHA?t=470

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      11 months ago

      I gotta hand it to you, kid, you’re the perfect specimen why communities like fuck cars exist, and why nothing is changing.

      Even presented with a fucking wishing well you cannot come up with anything but “CAaAaR”, because your imagination spans from wall to wallpaper.

      You could have imagined and wished for e.g. a working infrastructure of cargo bike sharing, but nope!, car it is!

      You don’t understand why people hate cars, you’re part of the reason people hate cars.

      I don’t have money, I don’t make money, so I couldn’t get an Uber/Lyft/Taxi (Not to mention that we don’t have taxis where I live).

      Ah, a car is free, of course, it just drops out of nowhere and runs on unicorn dust. Tonight, please ask mommy and daddy what they’re paying for their car(s). Full cost: down payment, monthly payments, fuel, repairs, insurance, loss of value, everything.

      I’m gonna tl;dr it for you: if you cannot afford a taxi/uber/whatever even once, you cannot afford a car. There, that was easy, wasn’t it?

      I ruled a bike out as an option as I CANNOT take a bike onto a school bus, so I can get to school.

      I thought the printer was just 3 miles away? Did it ever occur to you you could have just gone home, pick up the cargo bike, ride the 3 miles to the printer which literally takes 10 minutes and pick it up?

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      11 months ago

      That’s such a contrived example why would we even bother with it?

      Typically when people purchase or obtain items that they need to transport home or to someplace, they do some sort of planning ahead. Also, when I was a kid and needed transportation I typically could just ask an adult to help out with this. Or, another option would be to ask the school to hold the object until you could arrange transportation.

      In any case, three miles is not a particularly long distance to traverse, and as you pointed out above you were actually able to walk that distance while carrying it. Well laser printers are somewhat heavy, I’m sure it was a little annoying to carry and you probably had to stop several times and rest. By myself had to carry 30 lb of lumber about 3 mi home from the lumber store years ago when I didn’t have a car. And yes I was able to manage.

      However, cargo bicycles exist and are quite popular in many parts of the world including the United States and can carry up to 400 lbs, so it is not true that the only means of transporting moderately weighty items is by automobile.

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      In fact, I would be willing to bet that you would not even need a cargo bicycle but a normal bicycle with a rear rack and a couple of bungee cords would probably suffice. I know this because I got away without having a bicycle for 6 years as an adult American in a city and even went bicycle camping a few times with my friends.