Hey there lemmings!
It’s your friendly neighbourhood Sun-Spider here. I recently volunteered as a mod on this community, so I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know my plans.
Many of you will have seen that there are a lot of off-topic posts in this community right now. I suspect that new users, especially ones not yet familiar with how Lemmy and the fediverse work, are seeing it as a kind of default community or a place to generally discuss the world of Lemmy.
However, as it says in the sidebar, this is a community about the lemmy.world instance specifically. If it’s going to serve as that, then it can’t be drowned in off-topic posts.
To that end, I plan to start going through and removing posts that are not discussing this instance, with two exceptions.
Firstly, I know that some of these posts are providing good info to new users coming from Reddit, so I’d like to not take those down just yet. Since this is such a visible community, keeping them has value. Therefore highly upvoted posts that are specifically for newcomers from Reddit may get left.
Secondly, I know that removing posts with many upvotes and comments could be seen as overly harsh. While we don’t have a karma system here, if you had a post that has done well then suddenly seeing it removed is painful. Therefore if a post is off topic, but is nonetheless highly upvoted, then I may instead simply lock the post. This preserves the content, but prevents further engagement. This should mean that it gradually falls off the front page, whose default sort is Active.
TLDR
- Posts that are not about the lemmy.world instance specifically will be removed, with the following exceptions:
- Some posts providing value to new users will be left
- Some posts with high engagement may be simply locked
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Hello and welcome :)
I’m pretty new myself, you plan seems fair to me, but I have a question: is there some other place that would be more suitable than this one to post help for new users?
I ask this because, in my opinion (as a reddit refugee myself), this community would seem the first place where new users seek help, the fediverse is very confusing for us used to centralized platforms and new people do need help to not be discouraged and leave.
Do you know if there’s any plan to create a sort of lemmy.world help or support community to “free” this one from off-topic?
@ulu_mulu @sunspider You can try https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
e: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
e2: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
e3: I can’t find any support or help communties for lemmy.world anywhere. Those subs i pointed to should give you a general feel or idea on what’s going on. I think you just ask the question
I know those communities exist but new users wouldn’t, and in my opinion, a new user would seek help on the same server they create their account on, I can’t imagine how they would feel if their posts were removed for being off-topic :(
@ulu_mulu True. There needs to be a user friendly community. I don’t know why somebody hasn’t created one yet. I’ve only been here since June 12th cause of the blackout but i’m here to stay.
e: I admit reddit had r/help and r/newreddit
That’s what i’m gonna miss about Reddit. I’ve been on reddit 6 years I still get stumped and got to ask questions in r/help
I’ve been on reddit for more than 8 years and I too sometimes still have questions, you never end learning :)
@ulu_mulu Yep. I’m that type of person though, if I do something and really like it i will research it as much as I can so I have no question that i’m doing something. Like a self validation thing. Have you seen this yet https://joinfediverse.wiki/ I just found it. I’m blown away how big the fedeverse is compared to what we know how. I didn’t even know it existed until the blackout on Reddit
Why can’t we just let the users decide what gets visibility vs what doesn’t?
I know it may be a stupid question. The problem with Reddit was it become to moderated to the point if you didn’t read the fine print your post would get removed.
I think users simply agree what is relevant to the community and what isn’t and will vote accordingly.
If the content is obviously NSFW take it down, and if they are spamming obviously ban them and remove the spam.
I really would hate to Lemmy become overmoderated.
Users often don’t care whether a post is made in the right community.
You see this on Reddit too: users that browse r/all or their own frontpage will simply upvote the posts they like while only rarely paying attention to whether it fits into the subreddit it’s posted to.
Can we hold off on this for a bit while things settle? I personally posted a story about investor concerns over Reddit’s blackout here because of the high visibility and because beehaw.org was blocking instances. Lo and behold they have blocked us so I guess it was a good call even though their Tech community would have been a better fit. I could have also made a new community here I suppose, but again, there’s no eyes on that.
Isn’t lemmy.world literally like 15 days old? Let’s not be too quick to turn this into a Discord server with 50 channels and 10 users. There’s nothing wrong with piling everything in one place when there’s barely any content to speak of anyways.
EDIT: I just created a new community to repost these locked posts in order of most comments:
Welcome to Lemmy.World General! This is a community for general discussion where you can get your bearings in the fediverse, discuss topics & ask questions that don’t seem to fit in any other community.
For server-specific announcements & questions, please see Lemmyworld, and if you’re really new to all this, check out the Newcomers community, but anything else? That’s what General’s for!
Glad I reviewed this thread, lol
I was just about to make a similar-ish community, but with a longer name. I got caught up in making an icon & finding a banner though, so uh, hm. 😅
Hello.
Thanks for making this post and letting us know with transparency what’s going on your mind and with this community. :)
I do have a question with you being a moderator: @[email protected] posted here regarding communities with abandoned moderation. I’m starting to encounter that as well. This comment mentioned reaching out to the mods, and I’d hate to do that when that isn’t the path forward.
Can you write a guideline for mods in this instance so that we know how to resolve issues going forward? This will help with this instance maturing as we go. :) Maybe a mod only community where we can communicate with the instance owners/mods?
would love to know the answer to this
