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    Honestly a lot of it is probably people getting comfortable lurking again, Lemmy only counts post and comments as active users

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    How can we grow lemmy? I would honestly interact here a lot more if we had an active ML community like reddit or twitter.

    But since it is a small community, maybe we can do interactive things more often?

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    Lemmy tickles the same part of my brain without all the corporate bs - less content makes me scroll less, but less toxicity makes it worth it

    I feel like Ive found my people and I ain’t leaving

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    As someone who posts a ton, I’ve noticed that a lot of people seem to check the top posts once a day or so. Posts can be slow to get engagement and traction, but the ones that become super active still seem to hit similar peaks as before (1-2k upvotes, hundreds of comments).

    But yeah, people aren’t as actively engaged and commenting on everything all day like they used to on reddit. The framework is here, and I think if there were another big exodus, Lemmy is set up to be a great landing point.

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      I think part of it is that if someone comes here looking for a Reddit substitute, they will be disappointed, but if they come here looking for something extremely distinct from Reddit, they will also be disappointed. A lot of fediverse stuff is basically an inferior Reddit clone and that problem was compounded by the huge wave of Ledditors basically hijacking the culture of multiple instances to just exercise their Reddit habits, making the comparison even more obvious and poor.

      Lemmy needs to eat populations that aren’t too big in order to metabolize them properly. Anything beyond that is going to get ejected along with some of what it could have handled if it was just that, and this will remain how it works until Lemmy figures out how to push people much harder to engage differently with it than with Reddit.

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        Yeah, I much prefer Lemmy to Reddit, it’s nice to be in a thread and not just see people repeating a load of dumb jokes they’ve all seen a thousand times back to each other like it gets any funnier the 1,001st time they hear it. And like that’s leaving aside how right wing it is and there was always a certain current of racism just below the surface in basically any politics sub and a load of popular seemingly apolitical subs

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        Pun threads on Reddit are the worst. I thought they were funny and clever… In 2009…

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        This. Quality over quantity. There are much more walls of text, but it’s filled with information and humanity. Reddit just became another Meta platform, but for niches. Lemmy has great communities, but all are tech and anti-big-corpo related, I feel right at home :p, but I understand that most don’t.

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    This is normal. Most “alt” services, rely on outrage and shit to grow user base. Reddit will do something stupid and we’ll get a huge influx again, some people will stay, others will leave.

    One of the other alt sites that I was part of had a meme just for this: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/409/691/008.png

    We need something like this drawn up for Lemmy but without the N word.

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      Ha, I like the meme. Maybe replace the N word with “commie” or an Anime tankie chick. I’m with that last Redditor that stuck around, I’m liking this place. Certainly not the same as Reddit, but it’s got it’s own charm to it that a lot of others have already commented about

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    Feels Very circle jerky here. Its low effort commentaries on political issues mostly and extraordinarily little growth of niche interest subs. The lack of content here helps curb my doom scrolling, so that and a real hate for reddit leadership and the pathetic Simps that think writing “fuck Spez” while still contributing content to his network for free is a form of effective protest, are all that keeps me here though.

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      This is my take on Lemmy as well. I was impacted by the removal of third party apps because I used Reddit as a mobile quick reader between activities where the bite-sized format of title -> elaboration -> brief discussion was great, but maybe a little too much. On Lemmy I don’t feel the need to keep reading. This also means I wasn’t invested enough in Reddit, so when they made clear their disdain for the users, I simply left. Nothing there is important enough to keep going.

      Lemmy is definitely lower quality though. All is primarily single topic outrage and there is a significant amount of extreme rhetoric that makes me feel like I’ll be put on a list for reading, which would have been removed on Reddit for lack of civility or worse. The niche things don’t exist and, even if I wasn’t a bite-sized mobile user and had the time or thoughts to form a community, these Reddit clones are always most active at political… discussion users can’t express elsewhere and that tends to kill the niche hobbyists who don’t want to look at or be surrounded by that type of passion. So it’s difficult to curate a personal feed of anything but that.

      Lemmy still works for my use case and it’s about the next best thing to Reddit. I do think the “circlejerk” feeling is contributing to the decline though, and wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up like Voat.

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    I won’t lie. I mostly don’t engage with content I see here. I didn’t do that when I was on Reddit either and mostly for the same reason: I don’t really have much to say and, even when I do have an opinion, I don’t usually want to engage in what’s often a protracted debate about something that will probably just end up being frustrating.

    That’s not to say I haven’t had positive experiences on the Fediverse - I’ve had more here than anywhere else - I’m just not particularly motivated most of the time.

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      I do most of my discourse on Beehaw which is protected in many ways. When I used reddit I would often have a comment typed out ready to post and think better of it since I knew it would only drive dismissive and antagonistic responses of the stupidest kind. It may be because of the protections or it may be because of the smaller community but I find a lot less posturing and a lot more actual conversation since I’ve been using this platform. This is what keeps me here rather than reddit. It might be worth engaging in conversations you wouldn’t have on reddit when you’re interested.

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        I agree… Beehaw is such a wonderful and special place on the internet. I have an account there but I try to keep it separate from my main Lemmy.ca one so that I better hold myself accountable to the server rules, in order to foster nicer discourse.

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      I’ll happily participate with light-hearted content but otherwise I mostly feel like you when it comes to any polarising topics like politics, etc. I wish there were more content about my areas of expertise so I could participate in that but alas there’s mostly developer stuff only. Maybe I’m also not doing my best curating my feed since I tend to mostly browse all.

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      Well, I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts.

      There are a number of thread topics on Lemmy that seem to keep going the same direction (Google, Musk, Gaza, Trump, Windows, etc.), and as you say, it can be frustrating and exhausting…

      At the same tine on Lemmy, I had found articles that were worthwhile reading, updates to FOSS that I would have otherwise missed, no shortage of silly memes, and a handful of new perspectives that were positively thought provoking. Those let me look past most of the negative things and stuff that is pervasive on all kinds of forums, Reddit and social media on the whole.

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        I do most of my discourse on Beehaw which is protected in many ways. When I used reddit I would often have a comment typed out ready to post and think better of it since I knew it would only drive dismissive and antagonistic responses of the stupidest kind. It may be because of the protections or it may be because of the smaller community but I find a lot less posturing and a lot more actual conversation since I’ve been using this platform. This is what keeps me here rather than reddit. It might be worth engaging in conversations you wouldn’t have on reddit when you’re interested.

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    It doesn’t help that every feds response to literally any perceived slight is OH MY GOD DEFEDERATE NOW. Kinda defeats the purpose and advantage of the fediverse.

    Hexbear still going strong though. We’ll be here after every else continues to splinter and defed from each other I’ll bet

    • imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one
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      Lmao Hexbear defederated from sh.itjust.works and lemmy.blahaj.zone, in both cases with extensive theatrics and drama for essentially no concrete reason. Y’all literally defederated a server that is run by a trans woman as a safe space for gender diverse people because you claimed it was transphobic 😂

      Yeah, you’re really going strong over there, no splintering whatsoever.

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        We literally defederated from a server that our trans community fairly unanimously said was harming them yes. Are you saying that we should have ignored our entire trans community?

        Shit just works kept actually threatening our community so I appreciate our mods defederating from them too. Not sure what you think a “good” reason is if you apparently think “threatening actual material harm on a community” is a bad one.

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          I have read them, and there is no evidence. You clearly don’t need evidence over there, anything a hexbear account says is the absolute truth, and anything from another server is absolute fascism. You guys don’t concern yourself with the details or nuances in life.

          Let’s have a look at the defederation announcement about sh.itjust.works. Keep in mind this was less than 48 hours after you voluntarily voted to federate with us, expecting to abuse and overwhelm our userbase like you had already done to many smaller servers. Unfortunately, you didn’t realize that we were larger than you and thus less susceptible to being drowned out by the brigading, which led to a quick tactical retreat by your fearless leaders.

          https://hexbear.net/post/504353

          Firstly, opening up by calling us sh.itsfulla.chuds and sh.itholefor.nazis. Very mature and rational behavior from an admin 👏

          Multiple instances of ableist and homophobic slurs directed at our users

          I personally witnessed a hexbear user throwing a shit fit about people using the word “crazy”. Apparently that’s an ableist slur. Woopdee-doo

          overwhelming litigiousness against even the most innocuous comments by our users, and just a general ethos of reactionary behavior. We’re done and out.

          Lmao, I guess my point is self evident here. A lot of big words that convey absolutely no information about what specifically was objectionable about the behavior of sh.itjust.works users. I’d love if you could explain to me how “overwhelming litigiousness” and “a general ethos of reactionary behavior” are grounds for defederation 😂

          I have also read the things that hexbear users have said about everybody else, and quite frankly they are the most nakedly racist and xenophobic comments on the entirety of Lemmy. Imagine having the gall to use the most hateful and dehumanizing language towards white people as a matter of principle, and then turn around and get all butthurt at a “racist” meme of Xi Jinping as Winnie the Pooh. Try to rationalize that one for me, because I can’t seem to figure it out

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      Or ya’ll could always try not to be unbearable assholes constantly. Or not, because others can just defederate, which is actually a nice advantage of the fediverse.

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    It was always bound to happen after a massive user gain. Frankly, we should be quite happy we can get over 400 comments in a thread. That’s not insubstantial for a very niche platform.

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    I moved to Lemmy over from reddit not because of content or better UI but because people behind reddit seems like jerks to me and i came to realization I’d rather use open source.
    What i lack here is information e.g. programming communities in Lemmy are, well, dead. If left on Lemmy things that are “recommended” to me it’s sensational “news” that are aimed to spark woke vs others battle in discussion.

    So what to make better ?

    • to build what reddit has, I’d call it a content library and i don’t care if it’s done by bots or humans. For me the facts + discussion to ask question is super important.
    • if searching for a topic outside of Lemmy> Lemmy doesn’t show up in search engine but reddit does. Some optimization needs to be done to get better score at search engines.
    • let users to block instances and thus make de-federation to user’s decision.
    • i think there needs to some kind of cross instance community, i don’t think having same kind of community in multiple instances with different content is good solution.
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            The instance shit means that no single entity holds all the power over Lemmy.

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              I’m here because reddit is fuck and my favorite reddit app converted to Lemmy, and I’m certain that was a bigger reason for lemmy’s popularity growth than instances ever was

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            That sentence makes no sense. That’s like saying “this ‘website’-shit isn’t helping the internet grow tbh.”

            Instances are Lemmy. They’re all seperate platforms that just so happen to share stuff and use mostly the same code. It’s just people hosting their own social media sites.

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            The main reason lemmy isn’t growing is because of the userbase. Alot of the things I say are opinions. But this is just a fact the userbase is incredibly toxic. Especially folk from lemmygrad and prehaps lemmyml lemmyworld instances as well

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            It’s the foundational concept of lemmy, and the main protection against enshitification.