Trying to “recruit” more folks in Kbin but I think I lack enough information to describe Kbin effectively.
“It’s like Reddit but it’s in the fediverse world. It’s a new thing, gaining speed fast and it has less chances to get corrupted because of the fediverse thingie compared to Reddit (lol)!”
- Like Reddit, KBin and Lemmy are ‘link aggregators’
- This means, in subject driven Communities (sub-reddits), people post links or images or their thoughts and others comment on them
- Reddit is software that’s installed in one central location (server). This means it is owned and controlled by one single commercial entity.
- Kbin and Lemmy are both software that are installed in multiple locations (servers), owned and controlled by multiple people and can be installed by anyone. This means no one can ever own or control the entirety of Lemmy.
- Reddit, KBin and Lemmy can be accessed by users via websites or apps.
- Reddit is centralised. If it disappeared tomorrow, it would be completely gone.
- KBin and Lemmy are federated. If one instance (server) disappeared tomorrow, all the others would be unaffected and carry on as normal.
- All instances of KBin and Lemmy can talk to all other instances of KBin and Lemmy, as long as they are federated.
- Rule breaking and/or toxic instances/servers can be defederated by other servers/instances.
- Reddit, KBin and Lemmy are all free to use. However, with Reddit you must contend with invasive privacy and advertising. The way to support KBin and Lemmy is to donate to the development team and the server/instance your account is on.
In layman’s terms, comparing it to email seems the easiest way to explain.
“It’s like a distributed Reddit with a bunch of instances that are run by different people, and they all talk to one another. Some people have an email address with gmail.com, some have yahoo.com, some have protonmail.com, etc, but they can all email one another. Lemmy instances share each others’ posts in a similar way.”
It’s like multiple reddit sites, but they all work the same and the content and users are synced between them. So you can pick any one of them, follow topics and contact users from all of them, and if one site goes haywire we just ignore or block it and move on.
The way that I explain it is quite similar to yours. It works, but you need to emphasise
- that unlike in Reddit, there’s no central group of admins controlling the whole thing; and
- that each instance has its own communities, and those are equivalent to subreddits.
otherwise users start associating instances with subreddits.
That’s how I explain it as well. It’s better than the email analogy I see all the time. Obviously using reddit as an example only works if the person you’re talking to knows what reddit is. Otherwise, I just change it to something they know (i.e. facebook, discord, etc.)
It’s a federated reddit alternative. The most I’ve ever had to elaborate is to clarify that “federated” basically means “decentralized.” I’ve never tried to explain it to someone who can’t figure it out from that.
The federated part is what confused me the most when I was looking into making the switch.
The ideology behind it is simple, but the term “federated” made it sound like some government thing.
federations are decentralized
in under 10 words
Reddit like email social media
did it in under 6 word’s
livakivi
Don’t even mention the fediverse, unless they pry. It’s another thing to explain.
If they get Reddit just say it’s like a bunch of mini Reddits connected to each other.
Hey, this may help
https://unofficial-kbin-guide.surge.sh/Cool
Activity pub and the feddiverse are literally the email of social media. Everyone uses email and has a basic grip on it. You at gmail.com can mail someone at hotmail.com and vice versa. So the host you choose doesn’t really matter much.
Mastodon and other similar clients give you a classic twitter like experience. With linear feeds and no algorithms to manipulate what you see. What you want to see is what you will see.
Lemmy and other similar clients give you a reddit like interface. Again with no complex manipulative algorithms. And the ability for much better moderated and curated experience than reddit.
Peertube gives you a YouTube like interface and focuses on video content.
Pixelfed is a Google photos or similar interface focusing on images.
They’re all activity pub. And can even interoperate. You can post to Lemmy from mastodon etc. Though that’s a bit more advanced currently.
more toxic than reddit these days and that’s saying something.
frankly I’m tired of even mundane, apolitical comments resulting in angry rage filled replies. not as nice a place it used to be
Peculiar.
I don’t see this behavior.Are you referring to a news or a politic community?
almost any community really if it’s on world. I prefer stick to my home instance
Peculiar.
I am subscribed to some .world’s but I don’t recall such behavior.
It’s groupchat for social media apps.
If you’ve got just one app you use, and the admins go all Elon on the place, you either put up with it or you’re out in the cold.
If you have a hundred different apps - you don’t have that problem, but it’s a fragmented mess you can’t possibly keep track of.
But the fediverse gives you the best of both worlds. It’s hundreds of apps, but they each pull in the feed of all the others - and if the admins of any one app turn out to be evil clowns, the other apps can quietly snip them out of the feed, just like making a new groupchat with everyone but Karen in it.
It’s slowly coalescing into a handful of major cliques defined by the kinds of people they don’t want to talk to.
I just tell them there are pirate subs (comms), that get’s their attention rather quickly.
Piracy and porn… The secret to every social networks success…
It’s like Reddit was before they started trying to monetize it and screw over the better apps. It’s probably impossible for it to get screwed up like Reddit did. Fewer users, though, for better or for worse.
Just like how people can use different browsers to get to content on the internet, people can use different websites to get to the fediverse.
