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      I think that’s pretty natural? If you weren’t getting any of the movie there’d be no points and we’d just read the subs on a kindle or something.

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        For people who grew up with subs it might be more spectacular. For us, it’s just Tuesday.

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      I’m actualy losing my hearing so I’m starting to “hear” my shows better than I can my wife

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      As long as you can read fast enough, you don’t miss anything. I hate it when video games have subtitles but you can’t skip to the next line because I’ve finished reading what they said way before they’re done saying it.

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        Sometimes I drop sub groups just over their timing. If it’s too short, I will drop them since I will no longer enjoy it at that point.

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          Badly time subs are one of the things I hate most. It is so frustrating when they’re not synced up well enough to match what the people are saying.

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        Honestly yeah. I disable subtitles even if I’d like them because I read it faster than they speak. The only anime subtitles that were going too fast for me for a while were Teekyuu but that clearly was meant to be for native audience so the pacing was as such.

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    Ironically, when you read subs you do inevitably miss some nuances of what’s going on.

    On the plus side, the translations can be much better since they don’t have to match it to the lips of the characters.

    In the end, I like both, but I tend to watch more dubs. Japanese is a really neat language, though. Sometimes it’s fun to watch subs just to hear it.

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    I generally watch dubs… but if I can have the subs on at the same time as the dub I’ll do that.

    I only watch subs by itself if there is no dub, or if the dub is rediculously bad.

    I actually think dubs get a lot of hate they shouldn’t be getting so many of them are actually pretty good especially for a lot of modern shows.

    Interestingly fairy tail is actually one of the better ones imo.

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    I speak English, and like using my ears and my eyes, which is why I watch dubs. If you don’t speak Japanese, what are you doing listening to Japanese speaking voices?

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      If you are used to reading subtitles you can read them almost subconsciously. And you don’t need to understand the language to get things like emotion out of it. I would even go as far as saying that getting used to reading the emotions of someone that doesn’t speak the same language as you is essential to fully develop a sense of empathy.

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      what are you doing listening to Japanese speaking voices?

      I think some anime legitimately sounds better with the Japanese voice acting, but some people take it too far and extrapolate that to mean all anime is better with Japanese voices and any dub is immediately shit. It becomes these weird gate-keeping elitism among losers where you literally can’t enjoy ‘anime’ a certain way or else these people won’t think you’re ‘cool.’

      One Punch Man sounds better with the Japanese voices imo. Saitama sounds downright iconic in Japanese, but like a generic wimpy boy in English.

      The vast majority of other shows I prefer watching in English. Either the dub is identical in quality to the sub, or the difference is small enough that I don’t care since I prefer watching things in my language.

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    There’s a reason why Japanese voice actors are treated like A-tier celebrities and 'murican anime voice actors are a bunch of nobodies. The chasm between their skill levels is too big.

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      How exactly tf do you know how good a voice actor is if you can’t understand their language, accent, or inflections? Do you reckon maybe American voice actors aren’t treated well has more to do with the elitist attitude weebs have regarding them than their skill levels?

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      American voice actors definitely get treated like stars and have fans. Source: Ive been to plenty of conventions. Also, another reason Japanese seiyuu are treated with such high praise is because many of them do other media, particularly music.

      But seriously, American voice actors have fan groups. Anime and American animation voice actors, and video games actors. There’s a lot of overlap there. There are very passionate fandoms.

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    I watch anime for the beautiful animation (not necessary the “plot”)

    Having text plastered all over it kinda takes away from it.

    So I will watch Dub every time.

    It is also a great way to check if an anime is good, since they don’t put so much effort in to dub something mediocre (usually)

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    Cartoons that don’t sexualize kids > cartoons that do

    But the anti-4kids crowd hates that argument

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      Your statement is correct, but I think people are taking it as an implication that all anime sexualizes kids, which is false. There’s lots of really great anime out there.

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        I mean a lot of it does, there’s a reason it’s part of the stigma against anime

        Even some shows that I otherwise really like have an uncomfortable amount of sexualization of minors. A Certain Scientific Railgun, Steins;Gate, Gate, Gurren Lagann, to name a few

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          Well I know about Japanese culture with the “perverted wind” blowing up skirts, people peeking under skirts and the crotch shots when kicking someone in the face and getting a bloody nose and stuff. I know about that kind of pervertedness but that seems fairly harmless to me. I’ve seen some Pokémon episodes mentioned which weren’t released in the west, and even then I wouldn’t deem it as problematic. So I am thinking either I’m really naive, which I will say I certainly am, or I am missing some things. Most people I know don’t even know what anime is, and if they do, they think of Pokémon and Sailor Moon. But not much else. So I guess most of this news has passed me by.

          [edit] Oh and I’ve seen none of the anime you mentioned so maybe that is the issue. I’m mainly focussed on older anime. But I have just now watched that scene from Steins;Gate and I totally get what you mean if you are talking about that. That is so incredibly uncomfortable and unnecessary to be in there. Graphically I think the show looks nice and I feel like I want to watch this some more if I could have not seen this scene.

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            While most anime doesn’t sexualize minors, a lot of it does, and unfortunately what comes to a lot of people’s minds when we talk about anime is either stuff like Naruto and DBZ where two guys shout at each other until someone wins, or stuff like Kill La Kill where a female character’s power level is seemingly determined by how small their clothes are. Anime would have a much better reputation if shows like ACCA and Mushishi were the ones everyone knew about.

            I feel like I want to watch this some more if I could have not seen this scene.

            To be fair, that is the only questionable scene in the show. I highly recommend watching it, I’d hate for your only experience of Steins;Gate being the worst scene in it

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        Well in Pokémon a character asks to suck Misty’s tits, it’s an anime trope for old people to be pervs and you come across a few in the series. There’s the beach episode and you get a lot of shots that pan from her ass

        In Yu-gi-oh you get the “love slave” comment…along with yugi’s grandfather being a perv. Mai also hits on yugi a ton which either she’s a kid who they draw with huge tits and a really short skirt or she’s an adult trying to hit on a 14 year old

        Inuyasha has Kagome bathing naked a few times

        No Game No Life has not just loli but hinting at incest a bunch. But the main character (kid) is obsessed with trying to spy on the girls while they bathe. If you get the light novel then the opening pages are straight up loli hentai

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          it’s an anime trope for old people to be pervs

          Weirdly enough, I just learned in my Developmental Psychology class recently that there’s a very surprising amount of sex between old people going on in nursing homes. Some of the students who’d actually worked in nursing homes before even confirmed it. So the trope may not be as unfounded as we might think.

          Not saying old people hitting on kids is okay. It’s freaking weird and gross. Just stating an interesting fact.

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    with many anime shows, the english dubs have a lot of shit cut out. Especially if it’s not one of the huge ones that everyone has heard of.

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    And for the fandubs, there should be an additional paragraph as a hat explaining some concept or pun that just does not translate well.

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    Yeah I can’t watch subs. I don’t want to have to read for a movie. I want to see the faces and expressions of people or characters as scenes play out. If I’m reading subtitles, I’m not immersed and the story doesn’t slap as much for me.

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    Someone once told me the dub for Mushoku Tensei was better than the sub. That person was a liar.

    Also, that anime is incredibly weird.

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      I wouldn’t say better but it is solid. Watching it dub with the wife and the dub isn’t detracting from my experience.