Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children. 
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday. 
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis. 

Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country’s population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People’s Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.

“Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children,” Putin said.

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      More than that. We have a giant demographical pit starting down from 25 y.o. and bottoming out at around 20-22 y.o.

      It’s WW2 stacked on top of the economic collapse in the 90ies and now this. It is ugly.

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        11 months ago

        Not Hitler, not even close. Im not allowing what he did nor defending him, but what Hitler did compared to Putin is major difference. It does not change the fact that both of them deserve a special place in hell

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    11 months ago

    So is this him just admitting he wants to start another war in 2042 or something?

    also obligatory “Fuck Russia… no not like that!”

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      He is 71 right now. He would be pushing 90 in '42. If he internalizes his inner Kissinger to live to 100, he can replay the “Great Patriotic War” of '45.

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    I wonder if women will start getting medals for babies, like soviet times? Another question, if these women are raising 8 kids, and all the men are dead in a sunflower field south of Avdivika, who the hell is supposed to be working in Russia for the next generation? Just banking on enslaving Ukraine to pay for the cost of enslaving Ukraine?

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    11 months ago

    Doesn’t that also equate to we’ve managed to kill eight of your family members?

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    When Russia collapses again they can pay all these mothers and their kids in vodka like they did last time.

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    That’s why even if Russia wins the war or got some concessions, it will be a Pyrrhic victory. They’re already experiencing population decline because of massive emigration aside from lower birth rate (which is why Putin is paying lip service to the conservative religious Russians to promote more birth, and in turn endeared him to conservatives across the world). The war will add to the burden of the Russian people on top of corruption and debt after the conflict.

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      They need the dogma of out breeding the competition so they can maintain a labor class without giving up any of the hoarded resources.

      No sane people want to breed in our current conditions anywhere, so gotta make them insane with promises of eternal hurrdurr if only you crank out babies for God.

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        They need the dogma of out breeding the competition

        That’s why the far-right in the West would love women to go back to their old baby churning role…

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    Ordinary Western and US propaganda - no matter what Putin may do, it’s a sign of his weakness. Whether he eats ice cream, smiles, sleeps, urges the women to give birth to more children or itches his left shoulder, it’s proves that he’s weak.

    In reality, he’s ever stronger and supported by the russians – thanks to the West and US.

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      Yeah the media have a tendency to exaggerate his flaws but this isn’t a well thought out move, it’s probably a mix of that white birther thing musk is into and general desperation at the industrial and military problems he faces.

      The reality is Russia is not doing well economically, Russian families can’t afford to bring up eight kids even in the poverty conditions they’re getting increasingly used to. The Russian state can’t afford even the shitty education kids get now so it’s certainly not going to cope if there was a sudden baby boom.

      This isn’t a well thought out economic, social, or moral plan so what else is it beside foolish bluster and weak minded desperation?

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    A bit of a dark shower thought, but wouldn’t this whole terrible situation really, really benefit China who has a larger male to female population as a whole?