Ya know. The fact that active users was going down made me feel like part of the 1% of stubborn assholes but ever since RiF went dark the only time I’ve been on reddit is when a Google search took me there because fuck spez. I’m in it for the long haul. I won’t be going back. And ya know what? Fuck Google too. I’ve migrated to Firefox and DuckDuckGo since then too. Idk maybe it’s just cause I am stubborn but I refuse to be a hypocrite.
i hardly use lemmy compared to rif but i was under the belief reddit content is just better but the app sucks. i was wrong turns out it all sucks. rif just gave the shit a tuxedo.
nowadays i look at reddit and the content is asisine its all the same shitty headlines and weird ask questions “how much sex does the average woodchuck have during football season?”
it feels like Facebook. lifeless and like everyone is pretending
Agreed. I may be principled to a fault, but I’ll never go back to Reddit. It has that corporate miasma to it now.
Truth be told, it had the miasma long before the API changes, but that was the point where the boiled frog croaked for me.
What is a reddit?
An old corporate link aggregator. Think Facebook meets Lemmy.
I’ve done the same. Even installed linux on my gaming rig. Also moved everything to proton.
Proton boyz
I’ve installed Libreddit to redirect any Google searches that lead me to Reddit. They’re not getting my visit!
Thank you!
I use an ad blocker, so the only thing my visit gets them is server load.
Nice extension, I installed too 👍
I hope you’re donating to the respective libreddit instance hoster, because unlike Reddit, they’re not a multibillion corporation with a steady ad income to pay for their traffic
If you’re not, then I suggest you use old.reddit.com with uBlock Origin
Lemmy is quite the pipeline
All our data are belong to us.
I joined [email protected] and now I use GrapheneOS (instead of Android), Fedora (instead of Windows), Firefox (instead of chrome), Mullvad VPN, jmp.chat (instead of google voice), and Kagi (instead of google search).
It’s a rabbit hole.
Although Fedora was mostly because an update to windows 11 completely broke it and I didn’t feel like trying to fix windows so I just wiped my laptop and installed Fedora.
Keep up the menentum! Install Signal, migrate to the Proton suite.
Hello fellow stubborner!
Just gave my windows PC to upgrade my kids gaming setup, Linux on a ThinkPad T490 for me now.
It’s such a fresh feeling, no more crap everywhere.
I assumed active users was going down partly because some of us created multiple accounts on different instances in the beginning to get a feel for it all, then ended up just using one
Because that Picard maneuver guy carries the Lemmy network with a ton of spicy memes. A true real one
Him and Stamets
that guy is a legend and also confuses me every time I see him outside of a star trek community
<3
This is from Insurrection, right?
Yes, I believe so. I’ve only seen the TNG movies once, so my memory is a little fuzzy.
We appreciate the content bro
Thanks! Just trying to do my part to help the fediverse take off.
We need your buddy, the Riker maneuver.
I actually named my Mastodon account that.
I like that my profile (on mobile at least) looks like he’s Riker maneuvering a Riker maneuver:
I used to look to Reddit when big news broke because it was always on the front page within minutes. This past year there have been a few times that big news stories weren’t even on the top few pages. I gave Lemmy a try, and it feels just like reddit from 2013. I love it. I’m home.
I still go to Reddit for American politics, my cities sub, and /r/nfl.
But I haven’t made a single comment and treat it more as a news aggregator than a proper community. And even that is happening less and less as I get more comfortable with the pacing of the community here.
On Reddit you can make a clever comment at the right time and get thousands of upvotes and sidebar conversations. It’s great for a shot of that sweet, sweet dopamine.
On Lemmy, I rarely get more than 5-10 upvotes, but the conversations are meaningful and nuanced.
People are realizing that Lemmy is not a 1:1 drop-in replacement and are adjusting their expectations and behavior accordingly. Hopefully we’ll hit a critical mass soon.
I never experienced reddit 2013 but reddit’s front page is gone. They’ve swapped out r/all for r/popular on new reddit, videos and screenshots are everywhere instead of links and they’ve even renamed themselves to “the heart of the internet”
Exciting
It’s winter break for me so that’s why I’m going to use it a bit more.
Good, we need an alternative to Reddit that isn’t manipulated
Give it time and there will be bad actors trying to manipulate Lemmy.
It does kind of have a problem with mod abuse but that’s on a per-community or instance basis, so it’s nowhere near as bad.
That’s good. A lot of communities have been slowly dying 🫤 I’ve been using Mastodon more and more but it’s not the same.
Upwards and onwards!
Has to be all the yiff here.
Here’s a comment for even more activity!
Response. RESPONSE!!!
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Ho Ho Ho
A very late comment for you
Make those charts explode.
This silence offends Slaanesh! More! LOUDER!
It could be about programming.dev and lemmynsfw.com stat changes: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4235
TL;DR: By default, Lemmy only counts posts and comments for active users. These instances also started counting the votes. According to Lemmy NSFW admin, there are 3 times more active users with lurkers.
Ah, that could be it. I would like other instances to do the same, to me ama voting lurker is an active user
Absolutely. Other social media platforms count as active when we mistakenly enter their sites :)
if you switch to daily stats you can see a big bump on the 4th, and a smaller bump on the 5th, is that when they made this change?
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
I think if you exclude those 2 days we’re still on a very very slight downward trend, but once every instance adopts the new method it’ll be interesting to see what the trend is after that, it could be that users get tired or posting/commenting and fallback to being lurkers
If you look closely, the downward trend actually stopped before the change in stats. We dipped below 33,000 in mid-November, but then started hovering above 33,000 for multiple weeks until the bump happened.
Given all the different ways “active” is defined we may as well just collect all the meanings available.
Mastodon and Twitter etc, for example, count logging on as active.
While I can see the argument for voting, it is qualitatively different from posting/commenting. Knowing both, as well as log in numbers too might make sense. But muddying the waters is probably confusing … though it is interesting that any instance can define what it means by “active”.
I would say that voting isn’t actually different from posting/commenting. It’s a process whereby a user takes part in a discussion/topic/post. In an ideal world, everyone would post, but we shouldn’t act like active people who don’t feel like they have anything to say explicitly, aren’t here.
Totally agree. Even when two commenters are replying to one another, there is always another layer where they are also addressing everyone in the thread/community/instance/fediverse, which obviously includes lurkers.
The votes shape everything about the platform, so ignoring the lurkers in the stats feels like it’s missing an important data point.
Okay, that makes more sense, I was trying to figure out what had changed in the past week. I’m very curious to see how that data would look for other servers too. I think it’s more logical to count users even if they don’t post or comment, because they are still a critical part of the whole ecosystem if they browse and vote regularly. Even without saying anything, their thoughts and opinions help shape the content and discourse through voting.
And for that matter, weekly active users and daily active users would be two other interesting datapoints. You can see the daily and weekly users on the sidebar of instances, but I don’t know of any tool/site that scrapes all of that info and displays it in an easily digestible format.
I get logged out every time I change VPN location, and sometimes I’m too lazy to log back in. Does being logged out count as inactive?
I think you have to post or comment, but it’s over the whole month
One issue with Reddit was the extreme even obsesive moderation level. It was totally frustrating to post stuff in some subs, lot of new people just avoid it even experienced users like me.
Not once did I ever get a post in r/showerthoughts past the mods. I eventually stopped trying
I got a bunch of posts removed there too, but tbh I kinda get it. 99% have the same repetitive showerthoughts and the whole sub was by design, super low effort, meaning the garbage : quality content ratio was like 500:1 so they had to rely on brutish rules
On the other hand… there’s a lot of Lemmy threads with flame wars that should really be pruned from the post by mods. The flame wars bring a lot of negativity and noise that takes away from the actual discussion
Yes in most circumstances. It’s valuable to let people speak, but not for like 5 comments back and forth.
Lemmy desperately needs a “take it to DMs” policy.
I would use Lemmy more if people on here weren’t so toxic. It’s been bringing out the toxicity in me more than I’m comfortable with. Too many confidently incorrect people speaking on topics they have absolutely no experience in, complex discussion completely boiled down to platitudes without any nuance, and tribalism that rivals what’s on Twitter.
Mac and Windows users are immediately downvoted for not sucking down Linux’s balls in every scenario, a complete cesspool of discussion with regard to Israel and Palestine appears all over the most popular posts, straw men and bad faith discussion appears in every community (with rare exception), and deification of the popular faces in the orbit of any topic without any room for critical thought around their positions is the norm. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.
I was excited for the fediverse after watching the slow decline of Digg, /., Reddit, etc. but it’s obvious that the worst parts of those platforms are creeping up here too and there’s nothing to be done except wade through the sewage to get to things that are interesting and insightful. It’s a shame but Lemmy will never be as popular as the alternatives were. Techie incels rooted in here too early.
Edit: I’m now banned from /c/technology (or at least shadowbanned on one instance) for not accepting their arguments on piracy. This is what I mean. There’s no nuance here.
I’ve been on-and-off bored with Lemmy for this reason.
Lemmy (the software and devs) is really cool and deserves praise for a neat platform with a neat idea.
Lemmy (the overreaching community) just hasn’t been very appealing. A lot of the same reasons why I didn’t like Reddit are here and I’m not sure how to feel about it.
Building on the lack of nuance, I think the obsessive complaining about Meta/Threads, $politician, $billionaire, Reddit, or X (formerly Twitter) is among the worst. It’s the same spattering of complaints basically week-to-week, with comment threads parroting the same 8-word uninsightful, exaggerated, or incorrect takes. There’s entire accounts commenting 15-30+ times a day comprised entirely of these “doom-and-gloom” one-liners.
obsessive complaining about Meta/Threads, $politician, $billionaire, Reddit, or X (formerly Twitter) is among the worst
Community gave me feedback and upon reports, I purge Elon Musk whining related posts on c/technology. We just need more active and adaptive quality mods that benevolently moderate.
Really has felt like the thrediverse has been quite active lately. During the exodus we had a lot of posting about… the exodus. But now we have a lot of posting about actual topics and what feels like a pretty healthy community building save for a few instances that will probably get defederated before too long.
Same I find the engagement is raising. The threads here are more sincere. Sure it’s not as active when it comes to some things but that’s fine IMHO. Building an online community right takes time.
I also feel that people here are much nicer, and willing to engage with content. Even tiny communities usually make pretty great posts.
I greatly appreciate the lack of reddit meta getting repeated adnauseum. 69 and 420 references really stop being funny when repeated in so many threads.
