• 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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      11 months ago

      With how often I run into people who don’t even get super obvious jokes and take memes super seriously: It’s no surprise that the top comment in this thread says “most jokes aren’t funny and most comedians aren’t funny.” Nothing is funny when you lack a sense of humor.

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      If comedy is being ruined by anyone it is by the group of people who think it’s patriotic, or morally praiseworthy to be offensive without a point.

      If you’re offensive without a point you’re just an asshole.

      These people have 2 jokes “I identify as” and “let’s go Brandon”.

      Everything else is just going “biden sucks, left sucks, trans people make my pepe hard and I’m confused by it”. It isn’t “funny” unless you already agree with everything they do. And even then I’d say it isn’t a joke just people getting release for being pandered to. Conservative thought porn.

      Most jokes are not funny. Most comedians are not funny. I haven’t seen anyone who advertises themselves as to the right of Biden make any jokes.

      The main problem I think most people have with “conservative humor” isn’t the fact it exists, but how aggressive they are in “advertising”. It’s basically trying to advertise straight porn in a gay night club and then calling everyone there a degenerate and deserve to be killed for not having the same fetish as you. Then after that bad experience they complain that they aren’t allowed back into the club. They aren’t a free speech warrior, they’re pieces of shit complaining that the 1st amendment also means that people don’t have to listen to their hate.

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          Except it doesn’t.

          The person above outlined how your argument is incorrect, using the example of conservative humor.

          If you think someone making racist jokes is funny, go watch them. Don’t get mad that lots of people think they’re a piece of unfunny shit.

          What is the real issue?

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          Comedy is making more money than ever. you need to be not vague if you want to be impactful. You know…make a point. I feel like I was just complaining about people virtue signaling without making points. Would you like to try again?

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            11 months ago

            Ok dad. Norm wasn’t conservative humor, and yes comedy is being chocked out IMO which I am fully entitled to. Norm was a great comedian. Sorry too don’t have a sense of humor

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      I don’t think so, I think unfunny comedy is being highlighted and comedians trying to be Carlin with their commentary but offensive comedy is alive and well.

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    11 months ago

    I think the only person offended was that one NBC executive who was buddies with noted double murderer OJ Simpson.

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    Well unfortunately he used his final special to spew transphonic trash. Basically any time he wandered his way into politics it was never good, but he had some amazing jokes when he didn’t.

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    Although I’ve been a longtime fan of Norm MacDonald, I understand that not everyone like his comedic style. Since comedy is subjective, what one person deems funny may offend someone else. Norm had a distinctive way of pushing the envelope, and I completely see how his jokes could offend certain people. As an aside, has anyone thought of employing Buy Primary Data Collection Service firms to get feedback on comedians such as Norm? Seeing a more methodical approach to comprehending crowd responses could be intriguing.

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    I believe the reason he got fired from SNL was he kept making OJ Simpsons jokes and one of the top NBC execs was friends with OJ. Not quite the same thing as a public outcry, but I’m not sure of any bigger controversy regarding Norm.

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    I mean, he said some blunt stuff about OJ being a murderer. It wasn’t really “controversial” but he was like… Okay, here’s an easy way to get the whole thing, so I had this friend for a long time (he’s passed away at this point), and he always told this same story that I think of whenever people get upset with a comedian like Norm MacDonald. The story is about a moth, but the message inside is universal.

    So a moth goes into a podiatrist’s office, and the podiatrist says, “What seems to be the problem, moth?” The moth says “What’s the problem? Where do I even begin, man? I go to work for this guy, Gregory Illinivich, and all day long I work. Honestly doc, I don’t even know what I’m doing anymore. I don’t even know if Gregory Illinivich knows. He only knows that he has power over me, and that seems to bring him happiness. But I don’t know, I wake up in a malaise, and I walk here and there… at night I… I sometimes wake up and I turn to some old lady in my bed that’s on my arm. A lady that I once loved, doc. I don’t know where to turn to. My youngest, Alexendria, she fell in the…in the cold of last year. The cold took her down, as it did many of us. And my other boy, and this is the hardest pill to swallow, doc. My other boy, Gregarro Ivinalititavitch… I no longer love him. As much as it pains me to say, when I look in his eyes, all I see is the same cowardice that I… that I catch when I take a glimpse of my own face in the mirror. If only I wasn’t such a coward, then perhaps… perhaps I could bring myself to reach over to that cocked and loaded gun that lays on the bedside behind me and end this hellish facade once and for all…Doc, sometimes I feel like a spider, even though I’m a moth, just barely hanging on to my web with an everlasting fire underneath me. I’m not feeling good." And so the doctor says, “Moth, man, you’re troubled. But you should be seeing a psychiatrist. Why on earth did you come here?” And the moth says, “Cause the light was on."

    So that’s basically what I think.

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    11 months ago

    Pretty funny and insightful to me, but I mostly saw him on SNL a long time ago and more recently on Tyson’s Mysteries, where he was hilarious.