BarbecueCowboy

It’s similar in a lot of ways and this is still an echo chamber and the echo chamber we have here has a lot of overlap with reddit… but, while reddit mostly just leaned left… Lemmy… just leans anti-west. As mentioned, there’s a lot of overlap there, we’ve got a lot that is shared, but the parts where those two groups differ can cause some serious wtf moments if you’re used to the reddit community. As far as over policing, moderation logs are mostly public and there have been some controversies, but mostly people just stopped caring or left. If you stick around long enough, you will notice policies being applied unfairly if you’re on the ‘wrong’ side and it’s a lot easier to be in that category here.

All that to say, you’ll likely have some moments where you think… Maybe that old echo chamber wasn’t so bad.

With ancestry, yeah, that’s going to suck and it’s the bigger database, but with familysearch, you’ve got an API:

https://www.familysearch.org/developers/docs/api/resources

Not sure what your limits are.

The data is mostly already there and publicly maintained. Ancestry/familysearch/etc should get us something interesting at least, data is a little bit light outside the us but someone would just need to go through it.

Only when it helps to keep the poors in their place.

Reddit still trends liberal overall, but anti-police sentiment has been on a decline for awhile. To me, it feels like the anti-establishment crowd basically died out completely over the pandemic. Reddit also tends to trend anti-hamas and pro-israel, the newer users don’t really understand that you can be against both so if it hurts the one they don’t like, it has to be good.

https://electrek.co/guides/tabby-evo/

Bit out of date, but it’s a framework to start with.

There’s very little to prevent them just pretending to be average users and very little preventing someone from just signing up a bunch of separate accounts to a bunch of separate instances.

No great automated way to tell whether someone is here legitimately.

mods could handle it more easily probably

I kind of feel like the opposite, for a lot of instances, ‘mods’ are just a few guys who check in sporadically whereas larger companies can mobilize full teams in times of crisis, it might take them a bit of time to spin things up, but there are existing processes to handle it.

I think spam might be what kills this.

I do kind of feel like this part of the experiment might just be coming to a close.

There’s no “if AI just keeps getting more insidious”, the barrier for entry is too small. AI is going to keep doing the things it’s already doing, just more efficiently, and it doesn’t matter that much how we feel about whether those things are good or bad. I feel like the things it is starting to ruin are probably just going to be ruined.

“Every person who isn’t a murderer is just a murder away from becoming a murderer. Timebomb!”

Never thought about it that way, welp, might as well get it over with.

Not in production.

There’s not a lot of dev time to go around at kbin.

It’s a nice thought and I’d hope the majority of the Palestinian people might… settle for that, but Hamas itself is founded on principles that are fairly extreme. Their charter is real rough, a paragraph early on about murdering all Jews everywhere is just the start.

Hamas has defined their government based on perpetual war and other problematic conditions. It’s difficult to envision a lasting peace while they’re still around.

The official said the reason was that Hamas had not responded to two Israeli demands: a list of hostages specifying which are alive and which are dead; and confirmation of the ratio of Palestinian prisoners to be released from Israeli prisons in exchange for hostages.

This is in theory what we’re waiting on. That sounds reasonable at first glance, but we do have to remember that we are only hearing from one side.

I get where you’re coming from and I want to be on your side, but this can get real tricky depending on the… I guess belief systems that make up the majority of the people on the bus.

I see where your hearts at, and I like it, but even though a lot of them are being assholes about it, some of the people in the thread make a good point. How we feel about ‘group pressure’ depends a lot on which group is most numerous at the time.

A refurbished tiny/mini/micro PC will use more power in terms of sheer numbers, but the cost is still so small on them that it’s really not worth considering for most.

Hey hey, no reason to bring up the past.

I think we agree, the past is over.

Oh look everybody we got a repeat from this one of giving up and going home once it’s pointed out that they’ve offered nothing!

Still not seeing any comments on the sources. How you feel about the hamas charter? Was women’s suffrage where it all went wrong? Openly admitting to suicide bombings and other acts of terror and being proud of being a terrorist organization? Is that what the good guys do?

This isn’t me, this is coming direct from your ‘good guys’.

Yeah the Allies fought against Hitler with violence because they wanted to kill all Germans and never achieve peace.
And the ANC too they didn’t want peace they just wanted genocide!

There’s the segue that no one cares about that I mentioned in my last reply.

Childish arguments.

And, there’s the ‘I give up and go home’ statement I predicted in the last reply too. It was expected after any sources are presented.

They have been open to peace and tried to negotiate peacefully far before October 7.

You’re saying they want peace then describing them as a violent resistance. Those don’t match up.

“khamas evil evil evil”

They’re unapologetically and unashamedly a terrorist organization and describe themselves as such. You’re the only one confused. They publicly claim responsibility for acts of terror like the below:

Hamas Suicide Bombings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks#:~:text=A%202007%20study%20of%20Palestinian,PFLP)%20and%202.7%25%20by%20other%20and%202.7%25%20by%20other)

Hamas’s government is built upon israel never accepting any peaceful deal

Partially correct, but misleading, the charter that Hamas was founded on:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter

Hamas’ government was built on a requirement for violent jihad and fantasizing about the death of all jews (it’s specifically in the charter). The government charter specifically speaks against negotiating for peace. Notable extra callouts railing against equal rights for women, codifying them as exclusively ‘homemakers’ and ‘child rearers’. A whole special section just to state that womens suffrage was something the west made up just to make them specifically look bad.

Your next comment should be something along the lines of “I give up on this, you’re obviously not listening to this stuff I made up”. Make sure to include a segue with an analogy comparing it to something else though.

None of the single violent resistances…

It’s hard line to tow, but if you are going to say they’re open to peace, you got to stick to it.

If you believe all those people that were willing to risk their lives to stand up against oppression in the past were super nice and educated about the whole situation you’re in for a big treat.
The IRA and the ANC are not the nice guys you think they were which only targeted military and politicians. And don’t google what the Haitians did during their rebellion against slavery.

No one is interested in bringing any of this into the conversation.

Hamas is very much on the lower end of civilian casualty rates for a resistance group.

This is where I have a problem, you’re framing ‘lower end of civilian casualty’ as a good statistic to look at and a sign that one side is somehow ‘noble’. People are trying really hard to frame it as a battle of good vs evil, where in reality it’s just a battle of evil vs evil, but one side is dramatically less effective and has less resources. The wikipedia article on suicide bombings Hamas has claimed credit for isn’t small and that’s just covering one type of terrorism.

It’s horrible for the Palestinian civilians, but Hamas has built their entire government on the idea of perpetual war and specifically not negotiating a solution. I hope I’m wrong, but I personally don’t see a peaceful solution here where both sides are still around.