Feel free to elaborate on the topic!
I’m old enough to remember him as the King of Pop, but young enough that I can’t remember him not being a weirdo. I respect the music, but was never a fan. (For context)
To me it always felt like he was trying to reclaim his childhood. His father was horrible to those kids and worked them to the bone. As a billionaire adult he was able to do ALL the things that every kid dreams of, like having an amusement park in your backyard, and a pet chimp. He shared his stuff with other child stars that he probably could relate to. I honestly believe he was just having sleep overs with his friends.
He was a deeply damaged, deeply odd man, and he definitely had no sense of what was socially appropriate, but I have literally no idea if he took sexual gratification from it all or committed any crimes. He was the absolute poster child for “reasonable doubt.”
Wouldn’t let my kid sleep over, though.
Wouldn’t let my kid sleep over, though.
For me, part of it would be that I could never hope to compete with all the fun things in his mansion! Lmao
This is where I am I think. Although I don’t think I’d let any kids of mine sleep over with any adult man outside of family.
I don’t think so. Mostly because actual victims of pedos like Feldman and caulkin still insist that MJ was on the up and up. Additionally as far as I know, he’s only been thought of as a pedo because of accusations against him by a kid whose family has a habit of suing and accusing wealthy people of abusing their kids.
There’s always people who defend sex offenders by saying “Oh, but they didn’t molest me”, which is kind of weird if you think about it.
I don’t know if he did or not obviously, but there are a lot of accusers, not just the one.
Feldman would put you on blast, he has no reason to defend Michael. look at his other interviews like with the bitch Barbara Walters. even though he wouldn’t name them, he has accused people of sexual assault and other heinous crimes. I doubt MJ molested anyone, he was sick due to his own shitty childhood, dude was barely in public he was so strange. his brain was basically trying to relive a childhood through the other kids, not fuck them up more.
I’m not saying he’s lying, he wasn’t molested by Michael, that doesn’t mean that the other victims must be lying. Paedophiles have preferences like anyone else and even within families, a person might assault one of their children while not touching the others.
The waters have been muddied enough that I don’t think we’ll ever know for sure, but I think it’s certain to say that he had a pretty fucked up childhood, which meant that at the very least his behaviour as an adult was extremely strange.
I’m going to say I honestly don’t know but the guy was definetly messed in the head but I think he was a talent I’m not going to judge him because I really do not know (would I let any kid of mine sleep over him, no I wouldn’t but that goes for anyone else as well) .
Jimmy Saville on the other hand is hopefully in hell.
Meh, since there are so many false claims about famous people, ways to profit and get an audience by making allegations… I think it’s really hard to tell. Seems established fact that he was a creep. And gathered children around because of some mental illness, to compensate for his own childhood that he didn’t have. That doesn’t automatically mean he abused them. And he wasn’t convicted of anything. I say: can’t tell, in dubio pro reo, but I wouldn’t let kids anywhere near people like that. Wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.
Considering everyone recanted an he wasn’t convicted, no I don’t think he did
Who recanted?
Doesn’t really prove anything. Loooooots of money can make anyone recant anything. And using “he didnt get convicted “ as an argument? Please.
OJ walked free too.
Did he do inappropriate things with children? Yes, definitely.
Did he do illegal things with children? I don’t think so.
I don’t think he deserves the hate. He was messed up in the head, but I don’t think he was a Harvey Weinstein or a Bill Cosby.
Did you see the Netflix doc where they interview one of his victims? He fucked them kids. Pretty sure that’s illegal.
No he didn’t. His energy was pure kindness. He was a child inside which is why he liked being around children. There was nothing sexual about it.
I think he’s probably guilty. Maybe 60-40
He was such a cute kid in the Jackson 5. I remember my parents playing them a lot. Then Thriller was big. Hard to describe how big. He was an incredible entertainer. Didn’t one of the kids actually describe his dick in court though?
I heard the opposite. I thought he won the case because the kid failed to properly describe MJs penis
Jordan Chandler, who wasn’t the kid from the 2000 case, drew the pattern of pale patches around MJs genitalia, the police then took pictures to compare. Both were ruled inadmissable in court and that whole case was settled out of court with Michael giving him a lot of money.
I don’t believe they ever confirmed or denied whether he was right.
I think he was just a weird and the media loves scandals
The “Jesus Juice” thing, in retrospect, sounds very Cosby adjacent. :(
I take the allegations with a grain of salt. The “pedo panic” is turning out as being minimally different from the Satanic panic, the red scare, and whatever we had before Stonewall, in fact there are fears I’ve seen illustrated well that it won’t end in a way that suits anyone. Did it happen? We may never know, and to assume is always premature. Notice all such allegations have a formulaic binary mindset.
I don’t know, I just chalk it up to another L on the genius-madness scoreboard. We’ll always have some fond memories of before he went off the deep end.