• anteaters@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    We have all seen the video of her broken body being paraded through Gaza and the people spitting on her. Hamas did that and they brought death and destruction to Gaza.

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    11 months ago

    Hot take: this is only news because she’s pretty. Where’s the heart-breaking stories of the other thousands that have died? Were they too ugly to give a shit about?

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      This is news because she was one of the first videos that went viral that day. And to this day there are still people denying it that she died and that she is home safe. There was even a so called interview with her mother who said she was alive. They even went so far to say the truck video was them bringing her to a hospital (ya know because you beat half naked in her underwear body with your sandals to administer first aid).

      The Internet used “her being alive” as one of the first propaganda pieces to try to paint the photo that nothing happened Oct 7 and Israel are all liars.

      Turns out it’s exactly as the videos made it look. Just like the woman being led into a jeep with dark drried blood all over the ass of her pants was probably bleeding from mass rape even though the Internet tried to find every excuse for their behaviors.

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          Please, add more add more, we must make the most of Hamas! Did Hamas ate her too? You know, we still have room for Israeli delirium.
          You are all so ridiculous with your tabloid stories to hide the criminal acts that Israel is committing.
          “A german-israeli woman dead”
          “+3000 children smashed under bombings”

          “yeah, but Shani Louk! and you, come about people without name and sexy photo!”

          • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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            nobody here is hiding stories about the criminal acts israel is committing, and in fact a lot of thr folks talking about killing and raping random women being bad are not pro israel

            do you ever have a moment of clarity between frothing over folks saying torture is bad and think ‘am i a bad person’?

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        11 months ago

        The way I remember it is her mom said that Hamas claimed she was still alive. Not surprised it was a lie. Her mother must be even more devastated now after having that little bit of hope.

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      I think it’s news because her body was taken around on a truck while people spat on her.

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      11 months ago

      She was one of the women raped to death and then paraded through the streets. That and she was a foreigner.

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        11 months ago

        I’m not familiar with the story. Are you saying that she was paraded after her death?

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          Hamas. Terrorists.

          The same people who use gaza as civilians and then blame Israel for the casualties. Their bosses are currently in Qatar, the same Qatar that has an explosion of meetings with different media mongrels during Fifa, particularly elon musk.

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          11 months ago

          Imagine you have an invisible man in the sky who approves of everything you do and will make sure that when you die you go to a happy land forever. Now you understand.

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    11 months ago

    Tragic. Her poor mother stuck not knowing for 3 weeks… my heart goes out to them.

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      Tragic. Her poor mother stuck not knowing for 3 weeks… my heart goes out to them.

      Yes, more tragic than this mother with her smashed baby by a - supposed - legal entity.

      A civilian life is a civilian life but here, it is not me who breaks the balance! Disgusting!

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        Take a breath. This is a human life that ended. Have respect and don’t diminish the loss. One day you will die too, and you would want people to treat your passing with respect and honor, not a talking point.

        There are thousands of other threads you can hash out the unfairness of apartheid, and the realities of struggle, this isn’t the right place for that.

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          I am not diminishing her death. At this stage, it is indecent to talk about her death - and use it by the way in the most grossy way - while the Israeli army is stomping civilians, like deaf.

          If they wanted to save her, the approach would have been:

          1. to cease bombing OR
          2. be real men and going on the field, not killing kids.
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            This is a human life, don’t twist her death into your talking point, that is disrespectful to her memory and to her family.

            Go to literally any other world news post and start a argument there. You can make the same talking points.

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        more tragic than this mother wearing her baby in her arms smashed by a - supposed - legal entity.

        can you point to the specific sentence where they even implied this, or are you actually just throwing a tantrum because someone said ‘man getting your daughter tortured and murdered must suck’

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      11 months ago

      Is it because of mobile or ubo but I didn’t see the video? Pretty sure the start showed her dead tits in the back of a vehicle though? That was weird.

      NSFW NSFL Dead screenshot from NY Post video

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      So nice that she was able to travel from Germany to party in Israel.

      I wonder what the travel logs for Gazans are like, and why that is.

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        Not that any death is worth more or less than another, but it is surreal to know that the people killed at the music festival were privileged young people completely removed from the conflict, and most of the people killed in Gaza are poverty stricken children and starving adults.

        War is ugly and unfair.

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        Yeah clearly anyone who can afford a vacation deserves to be kidnapped raped brutalized and paraded through the streets before being left to die as a hostage over 3 weeks.

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        It’s so hard to fight for the Palestinian people when soulless monsters like you show up to represent the cause. It’s becoming harder and harder to figure out who is anti-apartheid, and who wants another Holocaust.

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        Could it be because of never-ending attacks against civilians because they lost multiple wars yet refuse to negotiate for a viable peace?

        Nah, must be because the Jews are mean. 🙄

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          yet refuse to negotiate for a viable piece?

          Look at any colonized people who have made peace on their colonizer’s terms for why they might not want to do that.

          Let’s see here, just off the top of my head:

          Native Americans, Native Australians, Native South Africans.

          To be fair, Palestine already resembles the reservations and slums the native people I mentioned have been forced into by their colonizers.

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            I feel like you are missing the line between fighting for their freedom, and publicly raping innocent concert goers to death a bit, though. I completely understand them lashing out. I will never understand the targets that they chose to lash out at. It’s not smart from a strategic standpoint, even.

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            Look at any colonized people who have made peace on their colonizer’s terms for why they might not want to do that.

            Jews were more refugees than colonists and are playing by a much more humane playbook than the colonizers of those other groups did, but let’s ignore that for a second. Look at what has happened as a result of refusing to make peace. Is Gaza faring better than most former colonies right now? Your example, Native Americans, may have some issues and may have been screwed out of their ancestral lands but they have full US citizenship, freedom of movement and freedom of return. They aren’t being bombed because they aren’t hostile and aren’t killing civilians.

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              Your example, Native Americans, may have some issues and may have been screwed out of their ancestral lands but they have full US citizenship, freedom of movement and freedom of return.

              How many years did that take?

              They aren’t being bombed because they aren’t hostile and aren’t killing civilians.

              Blankets you dumb fuck.

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    You look over there, and then you look at the comments in here. It’s makes you wonder if the human race will ever live in peace. Shame on us all.

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        Hamas earned this, not the rest of the innocent Palestinians who never had a choice on who represented them. The innocent Israeli citizens didn’t earn this either.

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          They probably should have left long ago when the Egyptian border was open for anyone who wanted to leave.

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              “Long ago.”

              It was closed because IDF attacked a tunnel under the wall near the crossing. It was open before then and it has been reopened since. Unfortunately, Egypt only lets out ~300/day so it’s probably unlikely that refugees are lucky enough to leave at present. Egypt cares more about not destabilizing themselves like other neighboring countries did than they do about Palestinian refugees.

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        If you’re going to equate the dead children in Gaza with Hamas, you might as well say this lady “earned” it on account of the policies of the Israeli far right.

        There’s no such thing as “earning” the mass murder of civilians.

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          Way to equate self-defense with cold-blooded medieval murder. Israel didn’t start this but they sure as hell will finish it.

          Hamas did earn a military reprisal, and they’re hiding among civilians. Civilians who voted them into power. Let’s not pretend that they don’t share responsibility to some degree.

          Maybe having lots of kids and remaining in Gaza where your government is literally a terrorist organization isn’t the best idea to keep children safe.

          I think we all know the real point is to maximize civilian and child casualties so that they can make Israel look like bad guys in the press. Hamas wanted people to ignore evacuation orders and stay in buildings as they were being bombed.

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            Hamas has kept power for almost two decades without an election, of which over 50% of the population of Gaza was too young to vote in, on account of them not being born.

            Innocent people are dying because Israel propped up the terrorist Hamas to prevent a real, peaceful government from forming and bringing forward a two country solution.

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              That’s the funny thing about electing a fascist terrorist organization, that might be your last election. People always share the consequences of their belligerent governments in war, you may not like it, but that’s reality.

              That’s right, Israel negotiated with Hamas. I don’t suspect they will make that mistake again. Hamas will cease to exist along with every building that harbors them.

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                You keep saying “they” and I’m just waiting for your mind to wrap itself around the fact that the overwhelming majority of current Palestinians were not voting age or even born at the time Hamas took power.

                Not to mention they only got a plurality then started pushing moderates out of windows.

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                  Again, people share consequences with their government regardless of whether it’s a democracy or whether they personally support said government. I’m sure there were a lot of German people who were opposed to Nazi policy but shared their fate.

                  If Gaza has the capability of murdering thousands of civilians, I suspect that they have the capability of deposing Hamas if they were so inclined.

                  So what are you suggesting, Israel should stop attacking Gaza and leave Hamas in power because there are children there? That’s exactly why they hide behind them, this sentiment.

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    Did they find the body to confirm the beheading. or is this the same story as the 40 beheaded babies propagandized by mass media.

    Why the mess if one bullet could do a cleaner job. I don’t think they have a fetish for beheading despite all other cruelties they can be capable of.

    Edit: for those who are asking why I am talking about beheading rumors because NBC Titled its video with “Beheading” and refer to Israel’s President saying: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ICR5ml2YPkI

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    So nice that she was able to travel from Germany to party in Israel.

    I wonder what the travel logs for Gazans are like, and why that is.

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    You are all ridiculous with your dirty propaganda. “paraded, raped…” too big, like the story about beheaded babies. So, Hamas would have the time and leisure to do that under intense fucking bombing and fighting. What a joke! Israelis confirming every single jewish clichés that we heard on history channel about Nazi’s vision on them!

    Between, Yocheved Lifshitz, elderly recently freed has another story.

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    Critical reading is the only skill we need to teach in school. We are clearly failing. This is getting ridiculous.

    The IDF confirmed Shani’s death. The IDF has been caught lying already.

    Shani’s mother who as I understand it has not actually seen the evidence told a news station “a piece of her skull was found”

    Remember Shani’s mother said just a few weeks ago “Shani is alive”

    This is far from actually confirmed.